02-21-2020, 09:17 AM
STILLWATER 2/20 9:56
HPP no CCR’s no HOA it’s only a road association
STILLWATER 2/20 19:34
The importance of the objects and purposes of HPPOA does not deem it an HOA And HPP does not have CC&R’s
STILLWATER 2/20 23:08If HPP is to be legally an hoa I wouldn’t feel it to be a typical hoa as the bylaws, dues, etc are in conjunction with the business operating for road maintenance
( I could be slightly swayed for other things such as mailboxes etc for community comforts etc.)--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------"I COULD BE SWAYED......." This is a perfect example of what goes awry .
There is a definitive answer to what HPPOA is and is not. It is a road association, it is a non profit corp in the state of Hawaii governed by multiple layers of laws. It is mandated to follow it's own bylaws. The Bylaws make a good framework for us to follow. We just seem to constantly have people serve on Board that either can not interpret them or think they don't have to be followed. And when the ignorance/omnipotence escalates to violating State laws...oh boy........we end up where we are right now.There is no legal reason that I have found to end our Board meetings. The only reason I can find is "Emotional Based Reasoning". This is no way to run any Corporation. A court appointed overseer is a good , temporary measure but it is not the answer long term. We need a professional property management firm.... trained in overseeing personnel, aware of current laws, leading us within the law .
p.s. Aloha Katherine, your civil approach here is greatly appreciated. I go by "Reni" here on Punatalk , It's my name.
HPP no CCR’s no HOA it’s only a road association
STILLWATER 2/20 19:34
The importance of the objects and purposes of HPPOA does not deem it an HOA And HPP does not have CC&R’s
STILLWATER 2/20 23:08If HPP is to be legally an hoa I wouldn’t feel it to be a typical hoa as the bylaws, dues, etc are in conjunction with the business operating for road maintenance
( I could be slightly swayed for other things such as mailboxes etc for community comforts etc.)--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------"I COULD BE SWAYED......." This is a perfect example of what goes awry .
There is a definitive answer to what HPPOA is and is not. It is a road association, it is a non profit corp in the state of Hawaii governed by multiple layers of laws. It is mandated to follow it's own bylaws. The Bylaws make a good framework for us to follow. We just seem to constantly have people serve on Board that either can not interpret them or think they don't have to be followed. And when the ignorance/omnipotence escalates to violating State laws...oh boy........we end up where we are right now.There is no legal reason that I have found to end our Board meetings. The only reason I can find is "Emotional Based Reasoning". This is no way to run any Corporation. A court appointed overseer is a good , temporary measure but it is not the answer long term. We need a professional property management firm.... trained in overseeing personnel, aware of current laws, leading us within the law .
p.s. Aloha Katherine, your civil approach here is greatly appreciated. I go by "Reni" here on Punatalk , It's my name.