09-30-2020, 04:45 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-30-2020, 04:48 AM by Punaperson.)
I tried to be respectful in my post, not judgmental, and bring up things of which you didn't seem aware. If I was not clear, I will try to be so in my response. I don't have time right now to respond to all of your comments, but I will start and continue later as my time allows.
You quote yourself for emphasis from your own earlier post and this is what strikes the loud note that I responded to: "We want to open up the Sexton's Maze, and Eureka Falls for tours. My end goal is to open it to the public to explore on their own, and have a cafe up top ". Perhaps it is less my reading your comments closely than it is your writing clearly.
I am not a tour operator 'afraid of healthy competition'. Before I retired several years ago, I had 2 businesses: a plant nursery that kept food on my table and paid my bills for over 30 years; and a sub-contracting service for the Mauna Kea observatories for over 20 years. So your comment "Those people usually don't do business, as it takes problem solving, logistics, and organization " does not apply. But I am aware of the state/county rules and regs that you are already planning to skirt by announcing publicly on this forum that you plan to open a cafe with out any permanent structures so you can avoid the permits required. So question #1: how/where do you expect to deal with any bathroom/sewage issues your cafe will generate? Or is this 'judgemental' ?
Your quote: " Where did you get the notion I was even doing cave tours?" See the above reference to your own words: "We want to open up the Sexton's Maze, and Eureka Falls for tours." Again, perhaps it is not my reading comprehension, but your writing skills that need work.
If you read my post ' a little closer before coming to any conclusions ' , you will see that I stated that I stopped entering the lava tubes after a serious health issue that was a direct consequence of being underground when a wave of volcanic gasses swept down the tube we were in, and made us all ( 4 people ) wonder if we would be able to make it to an exit. I will repeat, this is part of a lava tube system of an active volcano. Whether you have technical liability because some one pays a subcontracting tour operator rather than you directly, it should be on your brain. Just because other people are doing stupid and reckless tours does not give you automatic permission to do the same.
You quote yourself for emphasis from your own earlier post and this is what strikes the loud note that I responded to: "We want to open up the Sexton's Maze, and Eureka Falls for tours. My end goal is to open it to the public to explore on their own, and have a cafe up top ". Perhaps it is less my reading your comments closely than it is your writing clearly.
I am not a tour operator 'afraid of healthy competition'. Before I retired several years ago, I had 2 businesses: a plant nursery that kept food on my table and paid my bills for over 30 years; and a sub-contracting service for the Mauna Kea observatories for over 20 years. So your comment "Those people usually don't do business, as it takes problem solving, logistics, and organization " does not apply. But I am aware of the state/county rules and regs that you are already planning to skirt by announcing publicly on this forum that you plan to open a cafe with out any permanent structures so you can avoid the permits required. So question #1: how/where do you expect to deal with any bathroom/sewage issues your cafe will generate? Or is this 'judgemental' ?
Your quote: " Where did you get the notion I was even doing cave tours?" See the above reference to your own words: "We want to open up the Sexton's Maze, and Eureka Falls for tours." Again, perhaps it is not my reading comprehension, but your writing skills that need work.
If you read my post ' a little closer before coming to any conclusions ' , you will see that I stated that I stopped entering the lava tubes after a serious health issue that was a direct consequence of being underground when a wave of volcanic gasses swept down the tube we were in, and made us all ( 4 people ) wonder if we would be able to make it to an exit. I will repeat, this is part of a lava tube system of an active volcano. Whether you have technical liability because some one pays a subcontracting tour operator rather than you directly, it should be on your brain. Just because other people are doing stupid and reckless tours does not give you automatic permission to do the same.