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(07-24-2021, 09:48 PM)kander Wrote: I honestly wonder how many more people could have had their lives saved by the use of widespread and early use of HCQ instead of using it as a political weapon against captain orange. Never underestimate how little peoples lives are worth when $ is involved.

https://news.yahoo.com/study-shows-hydro...00816.html

Very few, if any.   Regarding the VAERS reports, it's a somewhat useful system when scrutinized by professionals who know how to use it to find rare yet statistically significant adverse effects.  That's how J and J rare blood clot risk was discovered, for example.  Clinical trials had already demonstrated that they wouldn't be killing people.  

OTOH, VAERS can also be useful when employed improperly by anti vaxxers to make spurious claims about vaccine dangers. 



https://www.factcheck.org/2021/07/scicheck-no-new-revelation-on-hydroxychloroquine-and-covid-19/

...Experts who have studied hydroxychloroquine say Smith’s paper — which looked back at the treatment of 255 hospitalized patients requiring ventilation in March and April 2020 — has several flaws, particularly with the way the statistical analysis was done. And again, they point to the stronger evidence from randomized controlled trials.
“Retrospective observational studies such as this cannot compare with the much larger randomized controlled trials which show unequivocally that HCQ is NOT beneficial in the treatment of hospitalised patients,” Nicholas White, a professor of tropical medicine at the University of Oxford’s Centre for Tropical Medicine and Global Health and Mahidol University in Thailand, told us in an email.

White is helping to run a multinational randomized controlled trial on whether hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine is effective as a preventive to COVID-19. His trial is continuing, he said, adding that the question on whether the drugs can provide a benefit for early treatment or prevention “remains open.”
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