Vaccinated People Spread The Delta Variant, CDC Says

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To oink:  Please ask your church members why they went to the hospital when they got sick instead of going back to the church.

I thought I made it clear that it wasn't a church thing. It's just a population group I'm familiar with. I haven't actually heard anything at church advocating one way or the other. I know a whole bunch of pews (chairs actually) were removed to allow 6+' spacing. I don't really understand the extent of anti vax sentiment or if it's even higher than the general population. I think I'll pass on confronting people about why they went to the hospital when needed.

And your elderly friends that went to the center for the multi-infusion treatment: a $20 vaccine for prevention, vs a $2100 treatment that needs specialized medical personnel to administer - all on our taxpayer dime

I have no idea what the vaccine cost or the infusion either. A lot less than ICU would have I'm sure. These people have been paying taxes for at least 65 years so I won't begrudge them the cost. We spend a lot more on people who've never been contributing members of society. I doubt they've ever taken advantage of the welfare state prior to that, well I expect they're on Medicare so there's that. I am very glad they pulled through like they did. We were at a study with them and 4 other people, 8 total. I believe they were the only ones not vaccinated. It was briefly brought up as to who was vaccinated but not discussed further.

does that mean the stats about the death/infection rates, the stories of stressed hospital staff, the school closures due to quarantine, etc., are false ?

I don't know which stats you're referring to. Our schools are open. The death rate hasn't been as bad as I would have thought given the number of cases, especially for those not in the high risk groups like the elderly couple was and amazingly they came through it very well. I really don't even know if their results were due to the treatments they got but I hope those treatments work as well as they seemed to with them. Last I heard our infection rates were trending down. I expect it has been rough on the medical workers. I wonder why so many of them don't want the vax? Otherwise, life here is pretty normal except our real estate prices are going crazy. That has to slow down or I see another crash at some point. We never had the summer slump when all of the yankee snow birds are gone. They came during the summer or never left and don't want to go back. Unlike Hawaii the FL tourism industry appears to be doing very well.

Anyhow, I've had all my shots and will continue to keep up on then, including the flu shots. However, I do go about my normal life with an increased use of hand sanitizers. I do keep a mask in my truck but it mostly stays there.

You do seem a bit bitter.
I wish you the best.