terracore - https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-year...edictions/
The fact that it's 2024 and you would (unironically?) post that is wild. The Competitive Enterprise Institute, whose major funders have included ExxonMobil, the Charles Koch Institute, and the American Fuel and Petrochemical Manufacturers, say they don't believe in climate change? [shocked pikachu face] The real shock is that anyone would believe them given their vested interests. As your seem to espouse libertarian/contrarian leanings, can you not imagine that large companies would lie and cover up what they knew in order to protect their profits? Especially after they've already been shown to have done so?
For anyone interested in the history here of how the oil industry adopted the tactics, and many of the same lawyers, as the tobacco industry to deny and obfuscate the truth of their business and its impacts, Merchants of Doubt is a pretty good review of this well-documented history. The first season of the podcast Drilled also hits the highlights well, and their podcast Damages focuses on the related legal actions taking place in various countries and states, such as the one just settled here in Hawaii.
HiloJulie - Unfortunately, humanity cannot afford to rely on what YOU believe the current analysis of CO2 production is
Durian Fiend may be referring to the prediction that "If countries deliver on the promises made in their Nationally Determined Contributions, 2023 will also go down in history as the year that global carbon emissions peaked." IF is key there and most countries don't have a great track record at meeting their emission reduction goals. That is of course just slowing down how much CO2 is being adding yearly, the line for total CO2 as on the posted graph and HOTPE's ever-dutiful thread is still going up, potentially just not as fast, but there is already a lot of warming baked in that we'll have to content with even if carbon emissions dropped to zero today. Hopefully people won't keep going out of their way to make things worse by clinging to a high-consumption business-as-usual lifestyle, right? That would be almost as crazy as denying the problem altogether!
The fact that it's 2024 and you would (unironically?) post that is wild. The Competitive Enterprise Institute, whose major funders have included ExxonMobil, the Charles Koch Institute, and the American Fuel and Petrochemical Manufacturers, say they don't believe in climate change? [shocked pikachu face] The real shock is that anyone would believe them given their vested interests. As your seem to espouse libertarian/contrarian leanings, can you not imagine that large companies would lie and cover up what they knew in order to protect their profits? Especially after they've already been shown to have done so?
For anyone interested in the history here of how the oil industry adopted the tactics, and many of the same lawyers, as the tobacco industry to deny and obfuscate the truth of their business and its impacts, Merchants of Doubt is a pretty good review of this well-documented history. The first season of the podcast Drilled also hits the highlights well, and their podcast Damages focuses on the related legal actions taking place in various countries and states, such as the one just settled here in Hawaii.
HiloJulie - Unfortunately, humanity cannot afford to rely on what YOU believe the current analysis of CO2 production is
Durian Fiend may be referring to the prediction that "If countries deliver on the promises made in their Nationally Determined Contributions, 2023 will also go down in history as the year that global carbon emissions peaked." IF is key there and most countries don't have a great track record at meeting their emission reduction goals. That is of course just slowing down how much CO2 is being adding yearly, the line for total CO2 as on the posted graph and HOTPE's ever-dutiful thread is still going up, potentially just not as fast, but there is already a lot of warming baked in that we'll have to content with even if carbon emissions dropped to zero today. Hopefully people won't keep going out of their way to make things worse by clinging to a high-consumption business-as-usual lifestyle, right? That would be almost as crazy as denying the problem altogether!