03-11-2007, 02:41 PM
E David,
It depends on how sacred the information is or who you are dealing with. Then you have intra-island differences including but not limited to dialect. For example some may say hoomanauwanui. Some may say hoomanaunui.
Another example is in hula there is the oli kahea where the student asks permission to the teacher if they can learn. It is not assumed that the teacher will teach which I think differs in Western culture where if someone pays or what not... they somehow feel entitled to learn.
Then the oli komo which is chanted inside the halau and grants the student permission to enter the halau. However the teacher very well can and may say "You are not ready" or "No."
There is so much plus remember our history is an orally based one. One cannot possibly describe it all in one post at PunaWeb so I can see why Momi sent email versus posting it here.
Her decision also epitomizes an example of an oli kahea and an oli komo. It is not a right of the person who is asking nor is it a given that information and/or knowledge will be shared when someone asks. Instead it is a privilege.
Another possible factor is the high pilau factor but instead of trying to understand why she didn't post information for all to see what happened? It seems like some people expected her to do so since they asked. Thus an inherent problem.
Y.W.N.
Edited by - Haole Girl on 03/11/2007 18:53:54
It depends on how sacred the information is or who you are dealing with. Then you have intra-island differences including but not limited to dialect. For example some may say hoomanauwanui. Some may say hoomanaunui.
Another example is in hula there is the oli kahea where the student asks permission to the teacher if they can learn. It is not assumed that the teacher will teach which I think differs in Western culture where if someone pays or what not... they somehow feel entitled to learn.
Then the oli komo which is chanted inside the halau and grants the student permission to enter the halau. However the teacher very well can and may say "You are not ready" or "No."
There is so much plus remember our history is an orally based one. One cannot possibly describe it all in one post at PunaWeb so I can see why Momi sent email versus posting it here.
Her decision also epitomizes an example of an oli kahea and an oli komo. It is not a right of the person who is asking nor is it a given that information and/or knowledge will be shared when someone asks. Instead it is a privilege.
Another possible factor is the high pilau factor but instead of trying to understand why she didn't post information for all to see what happened? It seems like some people expected her to do so since they asked. Thus an inherent problem.
Y.W.N.
Edited by - Haole Girl on 03/11/2007 18:53:54
Y.W.N.