10-29-2007, 02:25 PM
Cat, which survey?? (we did GPS studies of the 'dump sites' over 2 days....) The water quality was done at a high low tide (Aug 4th), at the low & just as the tide started in...BUT this was in the afternoon on a very sunny day....sunlight acts as a disinfectant...(Our results did surprise Dr. S. Malloy, who is looking to do more bio studies, if $$ are available)
If the proposal goes through, hopefully there will be research money to do a series of water quality tests...
All uses of state land, esp by groups that collect fees (ie tour groups) must comply with the state rules & regulations....
http://www.hawaii.gov/dlnr/dsp/rules/13-146.pdf
Permits seem to be needed by many of the recreational users, inc. the tour groups; according to the conversations I have had with some of the state & fed. employees I have worked with on this project.... Although it might sound simple to install a prtable potty, even this action would need to be looked at as a potential action to trigger an EIS.... Think of the area in terms of storm & tsunami & I think everyone would agree that portable potties would have some issues that need to be addresses.
The illegal dozing of the area did doze some cultural artifacts, and some areas of archelogical interest are now 'dump areas', so that any one who is concerned about the culture, should be concerned about those that feel that they can just bulldoze state land at their own descretion....
Any work to improve this area needs to have much more care & respect than has happened in the recent past...
For those who wonder why more research is not done & why there aren't a lot of Environmental Impact Statements, The answer is $$$, the biological survey we did in class would have been 100's of dollars to contract out, EIS's run in the mega 100's of thousands of dollars....just to have the EIS research for the illegal bulldozing could have been well over $200,000.... and should have picked up the cultural sites, and would have had to address the impact that the increased traffic that the dozing created.
OH, Kapohokine...if there is interest, are you willing to pay the impact studies for the portable toilet???
Edited by - carey on 10/29/2007 18:30:30
If the proposal goes through, hopefully there will be research money to do a series of water quality tests...
All uses of state land, esp by groups that collect fees (ie tour groups) must comply with the state rules & regulations....
http://www.hawaii.gov/dlnr/dsp/rules/13-146.pdf
Permits seem to be needed by many of the recreational users, inc. the tour groups; according to the conversations I have had with some of the state & fed. employees I have worked with on this project.... Although it might sound simple to install a prtable potty, even this action would need to be looked at as a potential action to trigger an EIS.... Think of the area in terms of storm & tsunami & I think everyone would agree that portable potties would have some issues that need to be addresses.
The illegal dozing of the area did doze some cultural artifacts, and some areas of archelogical interest are now 'dump areas', so that any one who is concerned about the culture, should be concerned about those that feel that they can just bulldoze state land at their own descretion....
Any work to improve this area needs to have much more care & respect than has happened in the recent past...
For those who wonder why more research is not done & why there aren't a lot of Environmental Impact Statements, The answer is $$$, the biological survey we did in class would have been 100's of dollars to contract out, EIS's run in the mega 100's of thousands of dollars....just to have the EIS research for the illegal bulldozing could have been well over $200,000.... and should have picked up the cultural sites, and would have had to address the impact that the increased traffic that the dozing created.
OH, Kapohokine...if there is interest, are you willing to pay the impact studies for the portable toilet???
Edited by - carey on 10/29/2007 18:30:30