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Champagne Pond - Best solutions?
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Tony, Facilities using State Lands &/or state funds a a trigger for scoping for EIS concerns....further trigger include Coastal dev. in a state CZM. Privatly owned land not utilizing gov'mt funds or land, nor rezoning do not contain such triggers. SO the answer is, if this is on private or Homeowners land, did not rezone from conservation land & was not in the state CZM, they probably have no EIS concerns.
What you are doing is using state lands for income, on the days of our study there were groups out utililzing this state resource without obtaining the proper permits. If you are utilizing this resource for income, I do hope that you are obtaining the permits, as this land is owned by the state, not the dozer guys, not the tour groups, not the landowners at the ponds.
The big thing is land that is state land, as the ponds land is. The state has developed many sites for the public to use. This is one of the sites that has yet to be developed. It was being investigated for future developement when the dozers illegally torn into it. This one illegal action has put into motion many additional impacts. This is the reason WHY scoping for potential triggers & doing the research prior to changing the landscape is so important. The state does not have the funds to undo all of the work that has been done on this island illegally, much less state wide. Each site must be re-evaluated. This includes airstips & hangars, lakes, irrigation ditches, and bull dozed roads. Millions of dollars would be needed to undo all of these illegal actions.
Those who have gained income from these illegal actions all have reasons to keep things the way they are. Those who did the illegal actions have not had to face the true costs of their actions.
Tony, Check out HRS 343 if you intend to continue to utilize state owned land. also check the with the DLNR, as they are keepers of the land you are using.



Edited by - carey on 10/29/2007 19:47:08
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Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by Rob Tucker - 10-28-2007, 03:19 AM
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