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Champagne Pond - Best solutions?
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This discussion is the same that has not been asked, debated, fought over, and even had blood shed, in many areas, many times all over the mainland.

In reading the post, it's clear just about everyone recognizes the need to protect the area from human caused destruction. And, like so many problems past, present, and future similar debates from Hawaii to Maine, it boils down to: Which Humans?

The property owners will argue that they are not doing anything wrong; it’s the people that don’t live along the pond causing the problem. After all we have an approved waste disposal and go home when we need to use the bathroom.

The district residents claim it’s not them; they live in the area and respect the natural beauty and environmental concerns. Besides, we go to the bathroom before we arrive. It’s really those from the east side causing the problem.

The eastsiders are appalled. We live on this island and understand the environmental concerns. As resident of this island, we have the right to enjoy the pond. Anyway, we stopped at Starbucks and used the bathroom before we came. It’s the tourist from other islands….
…And this goes on and on and on and on!, be it peeing or camping, litter or blankets.

It will morph backwards and forwards from topic to topic with the same results – Finger pointing. One side has to be right the other side has to be wrong – Each side downplaying their negative impact and each side highlighting their positive impact. It’s not my inadequate waste disposal system; it’s this pooping in the woods. My little turd pales in comparison to your raw sewage seeping into the water from you. Our combined poop is nothing compared to the tourist. Our tourists are respectful of the natural beauty and anyway, they don’t camp overnight… Same old – same old, blah, blah, blah!

Point is, there’s a problem and everyone is contributing to it. So it doesn’t matter if what your doing was once approved, was once accepted, was once tolerated, was once…..
It doesn’t matter if it’s your land, my land, Uncle Moki’s land, or Auntee Laura Bush’s land… It doesn’t matter who has what access, who did what to mitigate this or that, what should or shouldn’t be allowed, what road is or isn’t public – private – abandoned – illegal…. What does it matter if tests are done in the morning, afternoon, evening – high tide or low tide – two hours after a hurricane the first quarter before a full moon when the year ends in a even number….

Find a solution to end ALL contributing factors or lose the very thing everyone is fighting over.


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Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by Rob Tucker - 10-28-2007, 03:19 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by Green - 10-28-2007, 05:29 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by mella l - 10-28-2007, 05:51 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by dakine - 10-28-2007, 06:41 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by Brad W - 10-28-2007, 06:41 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by jerry - 10-28-2007, 08:41 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by Carey - 10-28-2007, 09:51 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by Greg - 10-28-2007, 03:54 PM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by dakine - 10-29-2007, 01:43 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by Bill - 10-29-2007, 05:51 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by Carey - 10-29-2007, 07:26 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by missydog1 - 10-29-2007, 12:14 PM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by Tolleys - 10-29-2007, 12:27 PM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by Carey - 10-29-2007, 02:25 PM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by jerry - 10-29-2007, 03:16 PM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by Carey - 10-29-2007, 03:37 PM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by joseph1 - 10-29-2007, 04:18 PM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by missydog1 - 10-29-2007, 05:14 PM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by wyatt - 10-30-2007, 01:47 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by joseph1 - 10-30-2007, 02:14 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by wyatt - 10-30-2007, 02:25 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by John2 - 10-30-2007, 02:29 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by Greg - 10-30-2007, 02:35 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by chip - 10-30-2007, 02:40 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by Carey - 10-30-2007, 07:09 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by Bob Orts - 10-30-2007, 07:32 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by missydog1 - 10-30-2007, 10:45 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by Kelena - 10-31-2007, 05:10 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by missydog1 - 10-31-2007, 06:10 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by missydog1 - 10-31-2007, 06:16 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by Kelena - 10-31-2007, 07:25 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by mella l - 10-31-2007, 12:23 PM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by wyatt - 11-01-2007, 01:07 PM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by Carey - 11-05-2007, 02:44 PM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by missydog1 - 11-06-2007, 06:40 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by missydog1 - 11-06-2007, 10:06 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by Daniel - 11-17-2007, 07:13 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by PunaLover - 11-18-2007, 07:10 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by PunaLover - 11-20-2007, 07:12 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by PunaLover - 11-20-2007, 02:32 PM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by Kelena - 12-05-2007, 01:45 PM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by jerry - 12-05-2007, 02:17 PM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by Guest - 12-05-2007, 02:52 PM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by Kelena - 12-05-2007, 04:06 PM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by Guest - 12-05-2007, 04:36 PM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by malolo - 12-05-2007, 06:35 PM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by Kelena - 12-06-2007, 02:23 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by missydog1 - 12-06-2007, 08:00 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by Bett - 12-06-2007, 11:11 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by Carey - 12-07-2007, 06:43 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by malolo - 12-08-2007, 05:30 PM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by Dave M - 12-08-2007, 06:02 PM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by missydog1 - 12-08-2007, 09:44 PM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by malolo - 12-09-2007, 03:30 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by DanielP - 12-09-2007, 04:08 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by Carey - 12-09-2007, 01:22 PM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by missydog1 - 12-09-2007, 08:37 PM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by malolo - 12-10-2007, 05:22 PM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by JayJay - 12-11-2007, 12:30 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by Guest - 12-11-2007, 03:21 AM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by waynesb - 12-11-2007, 05:52 PM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by missydog1 - 12-11-2007, 07:11 PM
RE: Champagne Pond - Best solutions? - by Guest - 12-16-2007, 04:08 PM
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