02-07-2008, 07:11 AM
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[The question is did the school apply for a permit to use agricultural zoning as a school or did they just ignore the county zoning process and did it anyway?]
I did state "ALL" the charter schools in Hawaii county are illegal under the current rules except I think Connections which is in one of the RARE zones you mentioned. Many wasted precious time and money (taxpayer dollars) trying to get them but failed, go ahead and try to criminalize the educators and families.
I say its the State/County thats the criminal for not adequately addressing the needs of there communities.
The zonings not there dude and bickering with you about the stickling of the CURRENT UNREASONABLE laws is unproductive and I don't have the time.
Do your own research pull up the zoning maps and let everyone see where these zones are NOT, just try to get a special permit, a school would not get past the EIS among a multitude of other things.
But I will tell you this so you may better grasp the situation.
When the charter school movement began there were no formal policies in place,then people started complaining or whatever and WOLPCS found themselves in litigation so the ruling was interpreted that charter schools have authority like the DOE, meaning they supersede county rules.So they proceeded to supply our communities with much needed schools.Then some other politician came in and said I am going to interpret this ruling differently,hence making all the charter schools illegal.
The county understands to a degree the problem, so there stance is do what you have to and we won't bother you unless theres a problem.
Existing Charter schools don't want to make waves and possibly cause trouble until the laws catch up to what our communities need.
So charter schools are trying to follow the laws but like I said its almost impossible, especially when the rules are not clear or even reasonable and left up to who knows interpretation.
Answer this Bob why is it that the DOE can do what ever they want but charter schools can not?
Are you saying a starving man should die because its illegal to steal a loaf of bread or would you find another solution?
You seem to have issues with comprehension and I'm tired of repeating myself so unless you have a DOABLE suggestion that will help the HUGE problem affecting the families of our state I'm done.
Hint: Telling people to get a permit they cannot get is not the answer.
[The question is did the school apply for a permit to use agricultural zoning as a school or did they just ignore the county zoning process and did it anyway?]
I did state "ALL" the charter schools in Hawaii county are illegal under the current rules except I think Connections which is in one of the RARE zones you mentioned. Many wasted precious time and money (taxpayer dollars) trying to get them but failed, go ahead and try to criminalize the educators and families.
I say its the State/County thats the criminal for not adequately addressing the needs of there communities.
The zonings not there dude and bickering with you about the stickling of the CURRENT UNREASONABLE laws is unproductive and I don't have the time.
Do your own research pull up the zoning maps and let everyone see where these zones are NOT, just try to get a special permit, a school would not get past the EIS among a multitude of other things.
But I will tell you this so you may better grasp the situation.
When the charter school movement began there were no formal policies in place,then people started complaining or whatever and WOLPCS found themselves in litigation so the ruling was interpreted that charter schools have authority like the DOE, meaning they supersede county rules.So they proceeded to supply our communities with much needed schools.Then some other politician came in and said I am going to interpret this ruling differently,hence making all the charter schools illegal.
The county understands to a degree the problem, so there stance is do what you have to and we won't bother you unless theres a problem.
Existing Charter schools don't want to make waves and possibly cause trouble until the laws catch up to what our communities need.
So charter schools are trying to follow the laws but like I said its almost impossible, especially when the rules are not clear or even reasonable and left up to who knows interpretation.
Answer this Bob why is it that the DOE can do what ever they want but charter schools can not?
Are you saying a starving man should die because its illegal to steal a loaf of bread or would you find another solution?
You seem to have issues with comprehension and I'm tired of repeating myself so unless you have a DOABLE suggestion that will help the HUGE problem affecting the families of our state I'm done.
Hint: Telling people to get a permit they cannot get is not the answer.