05-07-2008, 01:41 AM
I love how my post was used to start this thread even though I stated at the very beginning that this is what I wanted to avoid.
It's a question of laws and legality. Sovereign it might be, but the Kingdom of Hawaii is unable to enforce its own laws or make legal decisions for its people that will be enforced. Right now the United States does so, therefore; as citizens, denizens or occupied inhabitants, we should have all the legal rights granted United States citizens. Such as was being discussed in Dirks post.
I honestly have no opinion on this matter. I never even knew that a movement for sovereignty was active in Hawaii until we did research into moving here. I would venture to say that the majority of the US has no idea such a movement exists. There are similar movements found in most states in the US, especially in the South, which has had sovereignty movements since before the Civil War and continues today. I knew about those because my grandparents are from Florida and very much Southern.
If it's what you believe in and want, I see no problem in peacefully protesting for the rights you want. The minute a movement like this begins to get violent or violate laws (whether you believe them to be valid or not), it will become very difficult to get the support and recognition needed to make a difference. Either way, be prepared for a long haul. Big changes don't happen quickly, but they can happen.
It's a question of laws and legality. Sovereign it might be, but the Kingdom of Hawaii is unable to enforce its own laws or make legal decisions for its people that will be enforced. Right now the United States does so, therefore; as citizens, denizens or occupied inhabitants, we should have all the legal rights granted United States citizens. Such as was being discussed in Dirks post.
I honestly have no opinion on this matter. I never even knew that a movement for sovereignty was active in Hawaii until we did research into moving here. I would venture to say that the majority of the US has no idea such a movement exists. There are similar movements found in most states in the US, especially in the South, which has had sovereignty movements since before the Civil War and continues today. I knew about those because my grandparents are from Florida and very much Southern.
If it's what you believe in and want, I see no problem in peacefully protesting for the rights you want. The minute a movement like this begins to get violent or violate laws (whether you believe them to be valid or not), it will become very difficult to get the support and recognition needed to make a difference. Either way, be prepared for a long haul. Big changes don't happen quickly, but they can happen.