08-29-2008, 03:58 PM
Thanks Andrew and Menehune and Hope! ...
it's interesting to see how I can say several times I'm not telling the story to say woe is me.
I tell the story in detail because I don't want anyone else to be suckered in,
and
there are at least two sides to every story, and when I first posted it I had no other idea it had happened to anyone but me.
I know what I did wrong in so far as not getting enough references and enough in writing.
But, being a person who tried to deal honestly with the guy, what I didn't understand is why he's yelling at me that I'm trying to rip him off and calling him a thief ... what did I do to him? Why is he going off on me as being the reason locals don't like haoles? etc.
thus I lay out the story.
That nasty post doesn't really deserve a reply, but it's not true that I tried to save some dollars. I didn't call Troy because I heard he was CHEAP. I just thought from the description on the tree clearing topic that Troy was the right person for that job.
$1000 was a good price for the labor on that job. This was ferns, guava, and immature African tulip, not big trees. I didn't want a Sunset Garden path, just rough foot access. (Not slippery and unsafe)
The unfortunate part is that the job I wanted wasn't interesting enough I guess, and he got it into his head that it would be no big deal to take the path down the "pali" instead of in from the road. He got this more elaborate idea and pitched it as the right solution.
Then once he got into the execution, he got all impatient and wanted to be done fast so he didn't do the switchbacks, made it really steep, and then got pissed that I didn't accept it.
The point of posting it was that he DOES have a charming convincing personality when he chooses to, and could suck other people here in to a similar situation and then get laid into like I did. I don't wish it on anybody else.
I mean, it's not pleasant to have a raging "neanderthal" on your property, yelling for money, with his dog, and his truck, his pickaxes and machetes and saws ... refusing to leave without being placated with money. cubanishi called the cops and I was this close to calling them myself. I don't even want to think of how I would have felt if I'd been there alone with him ... scared.
And dude, I'm not a tree cutter. Not an option to do it myself. My thing is to put in the plants ... and do the hand weeding and pruning ... I leave the power tools and machetes to the boys, who seem to have more fun with them.
it's interesting to see how I can say several times I'm not telling the story to say woe is me.
I tell the story in detail because I don't want anyone else to be suckered in,
and
there are at least two sides to every story, and when I first posted it I had no other idea it had happened to anyone but me.
I know what I did wrong in so far as not getting enough references and enough in writing.
But, being a person who tried to deal honestly with the guy, what I didn't understand is why he's yelling at me that I'm trying to rip him off and calling him a thief ... what did I do to him? Why is he going off on me as being the reason locals don't like haoles? etc.
thus I lay out the story.
That nasty post doesn't really deserve a reply, but it's not true that I tried to save some dollars. I didn't call Troy because I heard he was CHEAP. I just thought from the description on the tree clearing topic that Troy was the right person for that job.
$1000 was a good price for the labor on that job. This was ferns, guava, and immature African tulip, not big trees. I didn't want a Sunset Garden path, just rough foot access. (Not slippery and unsafe)
The unfortunate part is that the job I wanted wasn't interesting enough I guess, and he got it into his head that it would be no big deal to take the path down the "pali" instead of in from the road. He got this more elaborate idea and pitched it as the right solution.
Then once he got into the execution, he got all impatient and wanted to be done fast so he didn't do the switchbacks, made it really steep, and then got pissed that I didn't accept it.
The point of posting it was that he DOES have a charming convincing personality when he chooses to, and could suck other people here in to a similar situation and then get laid into like I did. I don't wish it on anybody else.
I mean, it's not pleasant to have a raging "neanderthal" on your property, yelling for money, with his dog, and his truck, his pickaxes and machetes and saws ... refusing to leave without being placated with money. cubanishi called the cops and I was this close to calling them myself. I don't even want to think of how I would have felt if I'd been there alone with him ... scared.
And dude, I'm not a tree cutter. Not an option to do it myself. My thing is to put in the plants ... and do the hand weeding and pruning ... I leave the power tools and machetes to the boys, who seem to have more fun with them.