12-08-2008, 02:30 PM
Beleive it or not your condescending and sarcastic attitude is not all that entertaining.
Since your main gripe (you posted at length twice) about electric cars seemed to be its efficiency and fuel cost problems, my points were that in MOST cases electric beats gas powered cars in efficiency and cost to fuel (even well to wheels efficiency and even in disadvantageous situations such as present day Hawaii). I mentioned Virginia mainly just for sh##s and giggles and to show the other end of the spectrum. In places such as Virginia ELECTRIC CARS WIN BY A LARGE MARGIN. Again we're only talking about efficiency and fuel cost.
Now if you want to move the goalpost and discuss the dirtiness of coal or some of the other problems with electric cars (purchase price, battery costs, range, charge times etc.), these are real concerns and the case for electric cars at their current evolutionary stage becomes weaker. We would probably agree on MOST of the electric cars disadvantages.
1.But it still wins (in all but the most extreme cases such as present day Hawaii) in well to wheels efficiency.
2.And it wins by a HUGE margin in a "fuel to wheels" efficiency comparison(efficiency of the entire vehicle itself including charger losses, battery charge/discharge losses, motor losses). GAS= 20%, ELECTRIC= 65%
Do you at least agree with these two main points???
Since your main gripe (you posted at length twice) about electric cars seemed to be its efficiency and fuel cost problems, my points were that in MOST cases electric beats gas powered cars in efficiency and cost to fuel (even well to wheels efficiency and even in disadvantageous situations such as present day Hawaii). I mentioned Virginia mainly just for sh##s and giggles and to show the other end of the spectrum. In places such as Virginia ELECTRIC CARS WIN BY A LARGE MARGIN. Again we're only talking about efficiency and fuel cost.
Now if you want to move the goalpost and discuss the dirtiness of coal or some of the other problems with electric cars (purchase price, battery costs, range, charge times etc.), these are real concerns and the case for electric cars at their current evolutionary stage becomes weaker. We would probably agree on MOST of the electric cars disadvantages.
1.But it still wins (in all but the most extreme cases such as present day Hawaii) in well to wheels efficiency.
2.And it wins by a HUGE margin in a "fuel to wheels" efficiency comparison(efficiency of the entire vehicle itself including charger losses, battery charge/discharge losses, motor losses). GAS= 20%, ELECTRIC= 65%
Do you at least agree with these two main points???