02-03-2009, 05:23 AM
There was another thread on tis, just last week...
Hawaiian Beaches/Parks/Shores/Shores Recreation Estates are 4 very long (3ish miles) very narrow (2 blocks) subdivisions that run adjacent & parallel to each other all the way from the ocean shoreline up a couple of miles from the ocean. The narrowness of each subdivision & the fact they run for miles, from very VERY nice ocean front homes to some older (1950's) homes a few blocks from the ocean to tracts of 60's & 70's home's to much more recent housing makes the neighborhoods (& streets) more of a determining factor....
It is very hard to catalog a place like this by teasing out just one of the subdivisions. There are more building restrictions in HSRE and lot sizes, water service & park amenities do vary between the subdivisions, but all have paved roads, mail service & very regular bus service...
I have heard horror tales like this of each & every subdivision in Puna (believe it or not, even in the 70's Kona had the reputation as being the "wild west", filled with all sorts of less desirable types! Many felt that the coffee belt was populated with cane field and prison runaways). There are Bikers, drugs, illegal gambling, fights, & most likely every other element here in Puna, as just about anywhere (I have not seen or experienced any more of it than when I lived in Wheaton IL.... a town that in no way had a reputation for any of this...)
The whole of the Island of Hawaii is in a major flux. New building & land valuations has changed every area and subdivision & most especially the rent in most subdivisions.... as rents change (they have gone up significantly in recent years) the renters change.... Many people engaged in illegal activities are more likely to rent (due to the potential of property confiscation). so increasing land valuations do effect them, along with bringing in more people that have a higher $ stake in their property & the neighborhood.
Hawaiian Beaches/Parks/Shores/Shores Recreation Estates are 4 very long (3ish miles) very narrow (2 blocks) subdivisions that run adjacent & parallel to each other all the way from the ocean shoreline up a couple of miles from the ocean. The narrowness of each subdivision & the fact they run for miles, from very VERY nice ocean front homes to some older (1950's) homes a few blocks from the ocean to tracts of 60's & 70's home's to much more recent housing makes the neighborhoods (& streets) more of a determining factor....
It is very hard to catalog a place like this by teasing out just one of the subdivisions. There are more building restrictions in HSRE and lot sizes, water service & park amenities do vary between the subdivisions, but all have paved roads, mail service & very regular bus service...
I have heard horror tales like this of each & every subdivision in Puna (believe it or not, even in the 70's Kona had the reputation as being the "wild west", filled with all sorts of less desirable types! Many felt that the coffee belt was populated with cane field and prison runaways). There are Bikers, drugs, illegal gambling, fights, & most likely every other element here in Puna, as just about anywhere (I have not seen or experienced any more of it than when I lived in Wheaton IL.... a town that in no way had a reputation for any of this...)
The whole of the Island of Hawaii is in a major flux. New building & land valuations has changed every area and subdivision & most especially the rent in most subdivisions.... as rents change (they have gone up significantly in recent years) the renters change.... Many people engaged in illegal activities are more likely to rent (due to the potential of property confiscation). so increasing land valuations do effect them, along with bringing in more people that have a higher $ stake in their property & the neighborhood.