05-24-2009, 11:31 AM
Obviously the visuals got me.
There seems to be a consensus that something is missing interms of following up -- lets call this "neighbor disputes".
1. The police are effective when.... (fill in the blanks)
2. The police are NOT effective when... (fill in the blanks)
How do we make them effective? What tools do they need in terms of policy and procedure, education, community resources.
Being good people is one matter. That's a plus in any situation.
Having tools within the community to resolve persistent hostility between neighbors is more difficult. It seems from the discussions we don't have any. Yes, there's a trained, voluntary, mediation service, but having a police officer respond to multiple issues between neighbors with no resolution can be dangerous and it doesn't seem to resolve anything. At the least, after a second complaint, an officer should be able to issue a ticket requiring all parties to present themselves for mediation of the problem(s).
If one party is a no-show, they get fined real dollars.
The determination of the mediation board carries weight... not a 'nice pat on the head'.
The mediation board makes 'findings of fact' and passes them on to the court. And, if the same issue happens again, then a court date is set automatically with stiffer consequences.
If the answer to all of this is 'no can' because... then bring back the KAPU signs and skull and cross-bones signs posted on lots in the Acres. When I came to visit family 15 yrs ago, only a fool would ignore what they meant. But then, again, no one was grading pin to pin. No one had Donald Trump delusious, or if they did, they were swallowed up by the jungle.
a hui hou
There seems to be a consensus that something is missing interms of following up -- lets call this "neighbor disputes".
1. The police are effective when.... (fill in the blanks)
2. The police are NOT effective when... (fill in the blanks)
How do we make them effective? What tools do they need in terms of policy and procedure, education, community resources.
Being good people is one matter. That's a plus in any situation.
Having tools within the community to resolve persistent hostility between neighbors is more difficult. It seems from the discussions we don't have any. Yes, there's a trained, voluntary, mediation service, but having a police officer respond to multiple issues between neighbors with no resolution can be dangerous and it doesn't seem to resolve anything. At the least, after a second complaint, an officer should be able to issue a ticket requiring all parties to present themselves for mediation of the problem(s).
If one party is a no-show, they get fined real dollars.
The determination of the mediation board carries weight... not a 'nice pat on the head'.
The mediation board makes 'findings of fact' and passes them on to the court. And, if the same issue happens again, then a court date is set automatically with stiffer consequences.
If the answer to all of this is 'no can' because... then bring back the KAPU signs and skull and cross-bones signs posted on lots in the Acres. When I came to visit family 15 yrs ago, only a fool would ignore what they meant. But then, again, no one was grading pin to pin. No one had Donald Trump delusious, or if they did, they were swallowed up by the jungle.
a hui hou