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Originally posted by gypsy69
Would it be a legal practice to ask people to pay x amount for an application process that was never intended to be a fair process or was already decided?
If the state of hawaii had already visited and pre-chosen team Ha's to be our islands 1st dispensary owner then why continue to take others application money without a fair application approval process?
Didn't the recent geothermals talk of expansion of another puna geothermal plant process also have questions surrounding its application or rewarding process?
http://westhawaiitoday.com/news/local-ne...investment
http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesM...mpany.aspx
Interesting to find Mr HA's name in this controversial geothermal investment too,jmo.
Why does it feel like (OHA) is only out for the money?
What is the difference between IDG and OHA?
It always stinks like there is some kind of unfair or unethical process happening with the way this county, state, and oha discuss, propose, or deal with future geothermal interests or intentions here in lower Puna.
Would including the general public or the community that lives around the geothermal power plant be to much to ask?
Also found this recent article that helps explain some of the decades old civil forfeiture laws that have been impacting or hurting many Puna residents.
http://westhawaiitoday.com/news/local-ne...rty-ransom
Why can this state run a civil forfeiture program aimed at displacing local families from their property, faster than the county or state can run a geothermal relocation program to help a concerned family relocate?
Edited to add links.
Aloha ahiahi, all. Gypsy, since we are SO off topic at this point, please continue to research for facts (and not conjecture, nor BS) as to the whole geothermal part of this thread.
Sharing the link below for you to keep track of the progress at the PUC with regard to the status of the OHA/IDG/HELCO case/situation (Docket #2016-0027):
http://dms.puc.hawaii.gov/dms/DocketSearch
Your questions are valid, regarding Mr. Ha.Yes, he sat on the Geothermal Working Group, as did Bob Lindsay, OHA Chairman, as did Andrea Gill (brilliant woman) from the State, and others. He currently sits on the AG Board and thankfully, he has that kind of experience to warrant these positions.
To bring this back to topic, again, I wish him well, and trust he will do his best in this endeavor.
kalakoa, lol!
Got me all pissed off again at OHA, but that's for yet another thread...Ugh![xx(]
Have a lovely evening all.
JMO.
P.S. Gypsy, there's a really long link you posted, and it's kinda screwing up the margins, can you please fix it? Here's a link to shorten your long links, FYI:
http://tinyurl.com/
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You have so much more patience than I, Opihikao. Bless you!
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You have so much more patience than I, Opihikao. Bless you!
Bless you, too, Mr. Tom, and aloha to Pam (waving!). Trust all is well. After all, it's a man's world, Sir. [  ]
Leaving you all with James Brown, and Pavarotti, "A Man's World":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb-B3lsgEfA
Have a lovely evening all. (Still pissed at OHA, again...lol.)
JMO.
ETA: change smily thingy...lol.
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" Leaving you all with James Brown, and Pavarotti, "A Man's World":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb-B3lsgEfA"
Wow. I know a little bit about fusion cooking, but this is fusion singing!
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FYI,
http://www.hamakuasprings.com/2016/04/we..._cannabis/
The GMO topic is confusing to many because the unethical corrupt practices of companies like Monsanto are toxic to people and the planet. That doesn't mean all GMO plants are bad, but seeds with "Roundup" genetics (for example) are. Because Richard publicly supported GMOs and pesticide use (+ the corporations appeared to be supporting him), his local-familiar name stirs anger + negative emotions to environmentalists (as myself).
The FDA is corrupt, our food processing + labeling is corrupt, + the Hawaii judicial system is corrupt. The history of legal chaos over a plant from nature is absurd.
On the bright side, we live in paradise + can grow our own food + medicine. The trick is not getting arrested for self care while the powers that be self destruct.
http://www.kitv.com/story/30472019/hawai...corruption
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The FDA is corrupt, our food processing + labeling is corrupt, + the Hawaii judicial system is corrupt.
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Here is an interesting article with plenty of bickering between Sen Ruderman and Mr. Ha regarding this islands GMO issues.
http://www.civilbeat.com/2014/01/20956-s...-to-speak/
Would Mr. Ha be against the proper labeling of all mmj products too?
It would have been interesting to see both of these two (Ha and Ruderman) get a state awarded chance to operate mmj dispensaries. Pretty sure they would manage, grow, and sell their mmj products in different ways, which does make me wonder if the actual thousands of mmj patients would care or have a preference.
This article showed me that It could be much worse than having someone like Mr.Ha's team run one of our islands 1st mmj dispensaries. Must be very hard to compete these days in the farming business with practices like this profiting in Hawaii. Some might consider GMO or mansanto techniques to be ethically better than this way of human trafficking, jmo.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/21/opinio....html?_r=0
Wonder why big Hawaii farmers like these are protected, and rewarded by our states current or past politicians?
Sorry Tomk, I did it again to ya. I only edited the post to add another link and more jiberish.
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Did Ruderman apply for a permit to grow medical marijuana? If not, it's a moot point.
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ChicEco,
"[...]his local-familiar name stirs anger + negative emotions to environmentalists (as myself)."
Could you explain what an environmentalist is, what qualifications you and they have, and why other people who are concerned about the environment have no problem with GMOs and Richard Ha? Try not to generalize. Thanks.
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quote:
Originally posted by gypsy69
Here is an interesting article with plenty of bickering between Sen Ruderman and Mr. Ha regarding this islands GMO issues.
http://www.civilbeat.com/2014/01/20956-s...-to-speak/
Would Mr. Ha be against the proper labeling of all mmj products too?
It would have been interesting to see both of these two (Ha and Ruderman) get a state awarded chance to operate mmj dispensaries. Pretty sure they would manage, grow, and sell their mmj products in different ways, which does make me wonder if the actual thousands of mmj patients would care or have a preference.
This article showed me that It could be much worse than having someone like Mr.Ha's team run one of our islands 1st mmj dispensaries. Must be very hard to compete these days in the farming business with practices like this profiting in Hawaii. Some might consider GMO or mansanto techniques to be ethically better than this way of human trafficking, jmo.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/21/opinio....html?_r=0
Wonder why big Hawaii farmers like these are protected, and rewarded by our states current or past politicians?
Saved for prosperity. What a disgusting post. Just to hint that Richard Ha is involved in human trafficking is about as low as you can get.
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