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Here's better specifics on what I'm looking to do. I've never done 3D modeling before so it took me a bit to get the hang of the tools and get my idea onto "paper". It's to scale but I understand an engineer would change the specs (for example I put the supports for the roof at 15' when 16' might be more standard etc). I'm not an architect or an engineer so there might be more details in building than what I put in the model (for example I just have a flat sheet for the roof, when in reality there would be cross supports as well).
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In what area are you thinking of building this? I ask because the general amount of rainfall in the Puna area would kill a wood deck like that pretty quick....
A low cost structure that needs rebuilding in 2-3 years is not a low cost structure.
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Probably Hawaiian acres, haven't bought the property yet. A variation would add more roofing (I'm also looking at breaking the deck area into multiple island decks but doesn't really effect this discussion). I'm not opposed to doing an alternative floor surface. I agree with you in regards to the long term view of cost (obviously initial price is a consideration but you have to balance that with long term value). I know you are partial to metal structures - Are those limited to pre-packaged / standard builds or do you have the freedom to do something like this?
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I'm not trying to sell you anything. It's just a wood deck exposed as it is won't last long. I would suggest you build a smaller deck of better materials and expand on it after you've lived with it and as funding allows. My best advice is stay away from wood.
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There's continuity in the 2 different examples you provided, so you're on the right track with 'you'. That deckhouse example is too cute and you can feel the breeze blowing through it just looking at it.
Exposed wood freaks me out too. There's nothing more defeating than slimy rotting wood. You could do a concrete deck; of the 'post and pier' the beams being concrete. Then you could add more sq ft as time goes on, like pads. Think 2 story parking garage or condominium construction.
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This is what we are working with on the "open air" plan. It came like this without a wall and we decided we liked it. My husband is thinking of 2068 bamboo bi-fold doors (6 panels - 12 ' opening) so it can close up if needed (rarely).
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@rob - Didn't think you were selling me anything, my question was on the up and up. When I think "metal structure" either as housing or an ag building (my first thought to building was just to do an ag building and then live in it on the sly (cause god forbid you live on your own land without permission)) I think of a "package" that shows up on site. I can definitely see doing the base structure (underlying beams etc) in metal if it's cost effective.
In California we had lumber covered in a plastic extruding to protect it from the UV, but I'm not familiar with the alternative materials that are regularly shipped to the island so welcome suggestions. The place we're currently in has a stone tile throughout that extends to a small covered lanai. I like it but it can be slippery when wet (2 broken toes to prove it) so I'd have to locate a tile that is non-slippery.
Cat, that outside living area is awesome. The place we are currently live in has the "raw" ohio like that and I love it.
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You can order in light gage steel joists and studs from Oahu... and they can come cut to length for zero waste if you map it out. There are a number of composite lumber substitutes available now. HPM, Honsador, Home Depot all carry them. If you are intending to own this property for along time and even it you are not you will be better served by using better materials and doing the job right the first time.
Repairing and replacing wood is at least 3x the cost. Working with steel isn't that tough.... just different. There is spray on zinc for cut ends and touch up. Believe us, wood will rot quickly here. The boric acid treatments are of little value.
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Cat,
Wow, the place looks great! You guys have gotten a lot done since Steve and I were there.
I really like the indoor/outdoor living design, with minimal "indoor" space. That is what I want when we downsize in a few years. I'm thinking screened pavilions for bunking visiting family with a bathhouse for guests attached to the main house. Grandson number 2 is on the way, and my Dad is going to live with us at least 3 months a year (I'm trying for 6 since Indiana summers are just as miserable as the winters) so for a while we need the big house, but I have been having a blast with google sketch up trying to figure out how tiny I can make the inside of a house without creating something that will drive us crazy.
Kudos to you and Bob.
Carol
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Carol, thanks!
We are going to sell it though if can, I am hoping someone who will live here will buy it and not just another vacation rental for somebody but it will be what it will be. We just moved around corner, and across st from mom so we can take care of her and her house. We miss our pond though! We love that house but need one less house to be responsible for. Feels like we are starting over on construction though. GRRRR! LOL
