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you should have led with this from your other post
" Please know that I am accustomed to living in houses and buying or growing my own food. I will be moving to Hawaii with plenty of money and a plan for moving back to SLC if I don't find a job in a year."
disregard the seconnd half of my post above!
A book you want is ( Poisonous Plants of Paradise ) its a very comprehensive what not to eat.
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Great series of books is Permacopia by D. Hunter Beyer, who lives on the island.
Book 1 is native and canoe plants (local plants)
Book 2 is introduced plants (haoli plants)
Book 3 is weeds (#$%&!! haoli plants)
Available at Basically Books and on Amazon
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I eat when hiking all the time, but mainly the endemic berries and the introduced coconuts
these can be found in the wilds of Puna, but not all in the same areas...... ohelo (native blueberry, 2 kine), strawberries (both native and introduced), coconuts, lilikoi (couple dif), avocados (some type will be in season all year), java plum, papayas, mountain apples, waiwi, guava, mangos, ulu, poha, sugarcane, Maritius raspberries, Hawaiian raspberries (very rare), blackberry, loquat, kalo, Hapu'u fiddleheads, banana, etc.
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save our indigenous and endemic Hawaiian Plants... learn about them, grow them, and plant them on your property, ....instead of all that invasive non-native garbage I see in most yards... aloha
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save our indigenous and endemic Hawaiian Plants... learn about them, grow them, and plant them on your property, ....instead of all that invasive non-native garbage I see in most yards... aloha
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I think there was a post from an astronomer in HPP and you can forage all the fruits and vegetables you need there. There are also all kinds of papaya trees along the road, pick as many as you want.
As for hunting, of course there is feral pig. Shoot those anywhere you want. Not to miss out, there is also feral cat, quite tasty when barbecued in an open pit. Fill that in with grilled poi dog and baked tiger doves, you won't ever need to buy meat except for steaks and hamburger but feral donkey meat comes very close.
You don't need to buy food in Hawaii, the land will feed you, meeting your expectations of what you think it owes you.
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JMHO of course, but I see no reason why most county and state parcels shouldn't also be food producing, tended of course by those that benefit. Done right, we wouldn't need food banks, soup kitchens, or the extent of SNAP, but then it would involve a degree of responsibility more than holding your hand out.
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Thank you all so much for the replies  I won't be moving for another year or two but I want to do as much research as possible. So please expect lots of questions in the coming months!
David: I agree completely. Hopefully our society can move in that direction sooner rather than later.
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I personally think they should use the prisoners for tending to crops and also that we should have giant community gardens open to all. For instance, down by bayfront would be a really good place! I dont necessarily agree with the politics of "guerilla gardening", but I think an elected official should propose this! It would save on lawnmowing costs, and reduce the dependence on food stamps and people in apartments downtown would love it! I am sure there are enough retirees/disabled/unemployed here to provide some type of supervision and management.
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Its the 'Tragedy Of The Commons'. The "common" areas with the fruit trees and vegetable gardens would not be owned by any one person. They would be owned by "everyone" (the government). Loads of people would line up for the harvests, but few would be there for the day to day maintenance that would be essential for the well being of the project. Look for LOTS of enthusiasm during the first few months, but rest assured that it would wane rather quickly. "Force" those on government assistance to work the fields? You gotta be kidding. How fast would the ACLU be on the scene?
The American Colonists tried keeping the land "in Commons" their first year and many starved to death. The following year, land was given to individuals who either worked their fields and had food to eat or didn't work and went hungry.
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JMHO of course, but I see no reason why most county and state parcels shouldn't also be food producing, tended of course by those that benefit. Done right, we wouldn't need food banks, soup kitchens, or the extent of SNAP, but then it would involve a degree of responsibility more than holding your hand out.
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So I guess the lesson would be pick up you government check AfTER your required hours. I know, work to eat is a foreign concept these days.
It's a shame to have anyone go hungry here, county and state should be providing the land and resources for abundant, sustainable food. No, not protest gardens, but something that's a real community asset.
Sadly, if we had a politician propose something like this, they would lose to the opponent promising a tax and welfare increase.
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I totally disagree. First off, I said to use prisoners not SNAP recipients. Second, I think that the gardens would be tended. I think people would have an interest. IF it didnt work, then let the grass take back over. No big deal. Just MO. I see so many retirees that are looking for something to be involved in. It'd be fun!
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