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Kehena Beach; What to do-do?
#11
It's really a hell of a topic, but I just can't comprehend how people have such a hard time not respecting the land. Is it really that hard to "do unto others" even when it come to the aina?
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#12
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Originally posted by Lupie

It's really a hell of a topic, but I just can't comprehend how people have such a hard time not respecting the land. Is it really that hard to "do unto others" even when it come to the aina?


In my experience, the same people that don't respect the aina, are the same people that have little respect for other people, animals, laws, etc.
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#13
Composting toilets are not just at Mauna Kea SP here, but are/were nearby Kehena, at Mackenzie SP....and the theft of the solar panel that were integral to the system is one of the reasons I feel that neither the state, nor the county may rush to put in more of these toilets in this area...

It really is too bad that a very few inconsiderate & greedy people can ruin so much beauty and goodwill...but that is the truth..
DLNR report on the theft:
http://dlnr.hawaii.gov/blog/2013/04/30/nr13-041/
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#14
I have only been to kehena twice since I have been here and both times in the bush at the base of cliff as been litter with caca and t.p.

jrw
jrw
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#15
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Originally posted by Lupie

It's really a hell of a topic, but I just can't comprehend how people have such a hard time not respecting the land. Is it really that hard to "do unto others" even when it come to the aina?

I doubt most first time visitors anticipate the sudden need to move bowels in the middle of the day, and probably haven't considered what they will do until the urge comes and they need to act fast.

Regulars should be aware and have their act together.
Hippies from urban and suburban areas ... clueless.
I remember my first lesson on that. We were living on a mountain north of Taos, where a little stream provided the water as it ran down the mountain and served about five dwellings.

One day the couple with baby from NYC (urban back to the land hippies) knock on the door wanting to borrow the pressure cooker to sterilize water (per the doctor) because they have contracted Hepatitis. How, we ask? Oh well, they had to rinse out the poopy diapers, so they used the stream. Not only did they not consider the homes DOWN stream of their place, but they washed the diapers ust UPstream of their own plumbing intake and were drinking fecal bacteria.

We were luckily at the top of the water pyramid. The folks below them were rather pissed off when they heard about the Hep.

After that lesson, my expectations for what people know when they move out to the land to experience "nature" are -- low.
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#16
Kathy H., OMG! [:0]

Perhaps it's time for another thread "What to do with Pahoa town?" They're crapping and pissing in the streets, behind buildings, and in the alleys there, too. SMH. [Sad!]

JMO.
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#17
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Originally posted by csgray... We also lived in Kapoho, both Vacationland and Beachlots and I would say the level of TP and diapers in the bushes is about the same at Kehena and Champagne ponds....


is I would say was. We got a porta potty at the tide pools until Aug 6. Coming back Sept 1. The use of bushes has dropped dramatically.
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#18
Isn't it amazing how people will do actually their business in the right way and place given the opportunity!

Carol
Carol

Every time you feel yourself getting pulled into other people's nonsense, repeat these words: Not my circus, not my monkeys.
Polish Proverb
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#19
How would porta-luas get serviced way down on Kehena though?
Is there a way?

Puna's not the only place with this problem, of course.
The Captain Cook trail to Ka'awaloa Flats and the landing area are plagued with human waste and TP. From both the hikers and the kayakers. Also there are Zodiac type tours that go there from Kailua Kona or Keauhou for a couple hours of snorkeling, and no lua on a Zodiac. Lots of people per day go there who have no access to facilities for their visit.

Also Makalawena beach.
Ironic these places are visited because supposedly pristine.
At least Kiholo Bay was cleaned up.
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#20
This is an old problem and It's a shame.
The county should provide and maintain Port a potties there at the very least.
Seriously, It's quite ridiculous...How many beaches are there in lower Puna anyway?
You can count them on one hand !
One Thing I can always be sure of is that things will never go as expected.
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