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Originally posted by kalakoa
afraid the ROD may return at anytime or spread to what ever you decide to reforest with
Planting a wide variety so they're not all susceptible to the same diseases -- part of the problem with ROD is that there's basically one kind of ohia.
Rather ironic that you mention this, cause so many people here rail against mono-culture farming. Isn't Ohia a mono-culture crop?
I agree that this island needs more tree diversity - just not Albizia...
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There is some genetic diversity in Ohia, and I'm sure especially among the various islands. This article says there are 5 species, although I only briefly skimmed it and did no fact checking: http://hawaiianforest.com/wp/five-specie...hia-lehua/
We do have one Ohia tree that only makes yellow flowers. I'm pretty sure it was planted by a previous owner specifically for that purpose. All the other Ohia trees around us only make red flowers.
kalakoa, who needs trees or reforestation projects when we can have several industries like geothermal and ammonia power plants?
After the ROD runs its course the county could rezone Puna by adding industry zone 1 or two, that way leilani would be lava zone 1, industry zone one.
I found a video of the most recent geothermal energy meeting in wash D.C, it does go into detail about geothermal energy, its potential, and its history. These folks sharing their geothermal knowledge seem to paint or talk up a pretty geothermal industry picture around the world. I must warn you the video is a bit long and only mentions Hawaii's geothermal interest a couple times.
http://www.eesi.org/briefings/view/031616geothermal
Hawaii does seem to be all in with geothermal energy, Hawaiians may want to start operating other geothermal power plants here in Puna soon as well. jmo
Anyone have any idea to how much money has been spent on the Puna geothermal power plant or the grid infrastructure to handle the expanding geothermal power?
How much has Hawaii'S health dept or DLNR spent on health studies, awareness, data, and monitoring for residential safety concerns regarding this invested geothermal industry in Puna?
P.S. The Ohia tree ROD has spread outward from ground zero much like how contaminated water beneath Puna would spread throughout the entire east rift zone because of the porous rock, jmo.
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I agree completely with gypsy. Furthermore, it's transported on that damn pavement on 8 Rd that the county stole. And the energy beams coming off of your property kalakoa! What are you, NSA? CIA? IRIX?
Lizard people? Not in MY back yard! Maybe in yours, spreading ROD...
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Hmm some of you guys think ROD will kill all of our ohia in 5 to 10 years or a few decades? I think not! There will be ohia trees that are resistant and will stay that way. I have been taking photographs of areas around my property with ROD and there are some very healthy trees nearby the dead ones. I plan to keep snapping pics every 6 months or so to see the difference. It's nature at work. Only the strong survive. There will be some strong.
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some of you guys think ROD will kill all of our ohia in 5 to 10 years or a few decades?
Right -- let's wait until they're all dead and it's too late. We can just allow "natural" forests of albizia and waiwi, right?
There is some genetic diversity in Ohia
I doubt it's enough -- but nor do I see anyone testing the varietals for ROD resistance. For my part, I'm leaving a section of the lot uncut, to my untrained eye there are at least 3 types of ohia (red tall, red bushy, yellow).
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Assuming that ROD will kill off all the ohias and demanding we do something about it before it is too late is a "chicken little" approach to the problem.
It is possible that a high percentage of the ohias may succumb to ROD, but plagues never kill everything. It is most likely that many will prove to be resistant and will subsequently repopulate with resistant offspring.
So often the actions of people cause more problems than they fix.
To start trying to out think "Mother Nature" before you even know what is going on is how we have acquired mongooses, albezias, rats, strawberry guava, miconia, and the list of invasives goes on.
To assume we know enough to make the correct decisions on how to fix the problem is a very poor line of reasoning.
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I wonder if some are actually resistant, or just didn't get it to begin with?
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We don't know if they are resistant because we don't fully understand how the disease is spread. It could be that some trees were spared whatever vector is spreading the fungus. The top candidate appears to be wood boring beetles. For all we know the mortality rate from the fungus is 100% and the ohias that survived got passed by the beetles, or whatever the vector is, for whatever reason.
"To start trying to out think "Mother Nature" before you even know what is going on is how we have acquired mongooses, albezias, rats, strawberry guava, miconia, and the list of invasives goes on."
This is an excellent example, since the fungus killing the ohia forests is likely another introduced species.
At least 15 Hawaiian bird species are extinct because they had no resistance to imported avian malaria. There is not a lot of precedent that endemic island species "will prove to be resistant and will subsequently repopulate with resistant offspring".
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