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Nope, Shower is the most used Hilo bound exit from HPP all day long, but especially in the morning commute hours. It used to take me 15 minutes just to make it up Shower from 22nd to the highway, due to all the people coming in from every single side street, some of whom actually cross the highway from the mauka subdivisions and then turn right out of Shower. Shower is the safest exit from HPP and many people just want to get the hell off that death trap of a highway ASAP.
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Shower is the safest exit from HPP
If only there were some kind of ... oh, I don't know, maybe an "alternate" route?
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Shower as least used/most used ... I guess I was thinking of entering HPP, not leaving.
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"Shower is the safest exit from HPP and many people just want to get the hell off that death trap of a highway ASAP."
AMEN!!! No telling what we tax payers will have to pay for them to "re-look" at what they have already created and it would be nice if they don't further disregard our safety.
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Originally posted by shockwave rider
Nope, Shower is the most used Hilo bound exit from HPP all day long, but especially in the morning commute hours. It used to take me 15 minutes just to make it up Shower from 22nd to the highway, due to all the people coming in from every single side street, some of whom actually cross the highway from the mauka subdivisions and then turn right out of Shower. Shower is the safest exit from HPP and many people just want to get the hell off that death trap of a highway ASAP.
While this all may be true, I believe the main criteria for determining where a traffic light goes is number of fatalities. This intersection leads all others in that category and most of the accidents involve people turning left to go Hilo-bound from Pohaku Drive.
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By installing a standard traffic signal, the DOT will force both Hilo bound lanes to stop. A proper solution would be to install a large center merge/turn lane at the intersection that would only stop the Pahoa bound traffic, allowing the vehicles on Pohaku to turn left into a center merge lane. Why stop traffic in all directions? This approach could also be successfully used at the Orchidland intersection.
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the main criteria for determining where a traffic light goes is number of fatalities
Related statistics tend to correlate: more population = more traffic = more fatalities, so similar conclusions can be reached with any of these measurements.
the DOT will force both Hilo bound lanes to stop
Blessing in disguise; the problem will have to get worse so that it affects more people, then maybe we'll have enough complaints to force some changes. Either that, or we'll get some "economic stimulus" from everyone paying higher prices at Malama Market and Orchidland General Store. Unless they can't keep their shelves stocked because delivery trucks are stuck in traffic.
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Blessing in disguise
Or if you sit at a desk in Honolulu designing highways you don't drive on, ignorance is bliss.
"One may pretend knowledge of philosophy more successfully than that of arithmetic." -Last Aphorisms (or how about, one may pretend knowledge with an opinion more successfully than with facts)
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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"Either that, or we'll get some "economic stimulus" from everyone paying higher prices at Malama Market"
Ha! I think the Sullivan family continuing to get their economic stimulus is more like it.
Shower may be the sight of most fatalities now but when we had our accident at Makuu several years ago, the responding officer told us that this was the deadliest intersection.
In my perfect world, there are lights at Kaloli, Paradise, Makuu & Orchidland...synchronized to keep everyone at the determined speed limit. Something does need to be done at Shower to help those from Pohaku to cross safely across the hwy to head towards Hilo. But holding up everything.....well, I can see the short turn off from Hilo bound into Shower getting backed up and causing stressful pile ups with a light installed there. Further, I'm hoping that a Right turn on red is allowed from Shower into the shoulder lane....and those coming from Pahoa restricted to 1 lane only until all are safely past the intersection.
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A bad situation made worse. The construction workers are parking their big trucks on the shoulder about 100' from the intersection, effectively blocking all visibility to anyone attempting to enter or cross HWY 130. I stopped and pointed this out to 2 of the workers and asked if they could do something to make the situation safer. They said "no, can't do that" and turned around and walked away. Please try to avoid this intersection if possible. It is now extremely dangerous.
