I predict that it is not going to get cheaper...

[Easygoing]

There are so few pure Hawaiian natives, would you say most are 1/2 or 1/3 pure Hawaiian on the Big island?

[macuu222]

How we offset high gasoline prices:

1)We got rid of Hawaiian Tel. We just keep the cellphones
2) We get our drinking water from the spigot off HWY 130 and then run it through a Brit filter instead of buying bottled water.
3)We don't eat out as much.
4) We plan which groceries stores to buy food and only buy those items on sale.
5)Got rid of Dish (we read alot now and get our books at the public library)
6)We take advantage of all the "free" things to do on this island.
7) switched to Geico insurance (no this isn't a joke...they really were cheaper for us)
8)We Never use the dryer.
9) Bought an energy efficent refrig.
10)We also got rid of our second vehicle.
11) We walk alot

[Daniel]

HI Nancy, I'm great. Staying very busy. We miss you!

Punamom, Our current Price is less than drillers were charging 10 years ago. It is a lot more affordable for a lot of people. For those who live below 50 feet elevation (i.e. lower hpp, hawaiian beaches) can get a well for less than a catchment! Others will pay a little more than catchment prices for a well. We dont do credit, but give us a call and we'll see what we can do to help you.

As far as lowering bills, some things we have done are going off the grid, growing our own food and useing a wheat grinder. One thing that might help is a fruit picker for when you find that wild fruit tree but can't reach the fruit. That way you can harvest the wild fruit for free.

Daniel R Diamond

[kani-lehua]

quote:

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Originally posted by Easygoing

There are so few pure Hawaiian natives, would you give it to 1/2 or 1/3 native or what, or maybe to the original discovers of Hawaii, who were massacered long ago by the current natives. Who should get the money, for the power that belongs to the USA, since this state is still part of it , they should just be glad to be USA citizens and not want, or need to get special priviledges.

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good job! thank you for upsetting this kanaka maoli.

malia paha o lohe aku

perhaps they will hear

[Guest]

Kani -

Let it slide...Its not worth the time. [] Malia paha o lohe aku

I'm married into a Hawaiian Family.

I HO'OKAHI KAHI KE ALOHA


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Today in History:
Mrs. Mary Castle, one of the few early missionaries to the "Sandwich Island Mission" who lived into the 20th century, dies at the age of 87. She arrived in Hawai'i in 1843. 1907

[kani-lehua]

'o wai ia?!!!!!

mai hi'i mau 'oukou o lonohi'i i keia keiki.

now, back to the topic. i just received my real property tax assessment for my lot up at mauna loa estates in it went down $5000.

malia paha o lohe aku

perhaps they will hear

[Guest]

Maopopo ia`u `ole

Pomaika`i! Maika`i Pomaika`i!

E kala mai ia`u!

kani-lehua: `Olelo `oe `Olelo Hawai`i?

Damon: `Ae, he li`ili`i (tiny itsy bit)

Pau[^]

And yes this is on topic... because I "Cheapened" the Hawaiian language by using it inproperly.

Hawaiian Language classes are something that will also be going up in price.

As our Kupuna pass away, another generation of speakers are coming up. Many of them are charging for Hawaiian Lessons.... Akamai []




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Today in History:
Mrs. Mary Castle, one of the few early missionaries to the "Sandwich Island Mission" who lived into the 20th century, dies at the age of 87. She arrived in Hawai'i in 1843. 1907

[kani-lehua]

damon: i speak and understand a little of the hawaiian language. the second sentence was "veiled" or 'olelo ho'ino ho'onalonalo. the literal translation is: don't keep carrying this child or he'll always want to be carried. hm?! now what did i mean by that?

now, getting back to the subject: that's my two cents. i'll send you the bill. lol.


malia paha o lohe aku

perhaps they will hear

[Tahunatics]

AP has a story today about $4 per gallon gas on Maui.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5glLut...AD8VD7I5O0

These high gas prices are only going to get worse since evidence shows we have actually reached that peak in global oil production aka 'peak oil'. Hawaii is the number one state which is most dependent on oil.

See thread from almost two years ago, June 2006:
http://www.punaweb.org/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1663&SearchTerms=future,of,hawaii

http://www.punaweb.org/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2504&SearchTerms=Peak,Oil

Steve & Regina
Hawaiian Acres / North Lake Tahoe

'If you don't know where you're going, any road will get you there' - George Harrison

[Hotzcatz]

I don't see fuel prices coming down at all and considering how much oil is used to make electricity in our state the electric rates aren't likely to come down either. Helco is a subsidiary of Heco and our island is about the only one with considerable alternative electrical generation isn't it? We are off the grid anyway, though, so their rates don't affect us much. Being off the grid, we use very little power - clothes line instead of a dryer, propane "on-demand" water heater, efficient refrigerator, CFL lights and looking to switch to LED lights as soon as they are viable, etc.

We planted a vegetable garden last October and a half dozen fruit trees last month. All the seeds for the garden are open pollinated and we are saving seed for the next planting. Another garden is being tilled and that will probably go for corn, squash and beans. Maybe some sweet potatoes, too. Sweet potatoes underground, squash along the ground and the beans climbing the corn. Then once that garden is planted there will be another garden area to get the guinea grass out of and till that up for yet another garden. Possibly melons or grain? Is it possible to grow grain here? We are basically turning the whole back yard into food production.

We also built a pig trap which not only keeps them out of the garden but provides sausages as well. There are a half dozen hens in the back yard who eat bugs out of the garden and turn them into eggs. Trying to get the bees out of their footlocker and into a proper bee box so we can steal their honey. Guess we could go buy a fishing pole.....