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Earth Day 2008
#11
“We have about five more years at the outside to do something.”
• Kenneth Watt, ecologist

“Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”
• George Wald, Harvard Biologist

“We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation.”
• Barry Commoner, Washington University biologist

“Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.”
• New York Times editorial, the day after the first Earth Day

“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“It is already too late to avoid mass starvation,”
• Denis Hayes, chief organizer for Earth Day

“Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”
• Peter Gunter, professor, North Texas State University

“Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”
• Life Magazine, January 1970

“At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

“Air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“We are prospecting for the very last of our resources and using up the nonrenewable things many times faster than we are finding new ones.”
• Martin Litton, Sierra Club director

“By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.’”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

“Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”
• Sen. Gaylord Nelson

“The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years,” he declared. “If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist


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I do not believe that America is better than everybody else...
America "IS" everybody else.
The Wilder Side Of Hawaii
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#12
Has anyone ever gone back to these "experts" and asked them why their dire predictions of death and despair for the human race has not materialized?
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#13
It has materialized, you're just not paying attention. Alarmists like Ehrlich tend to be conservative and to not bet on lucky finds like India's "green revolution" based on HYVC's or GMO's--which is in collapse at the moment--or elsewise. Certainly we've been bought a little time by technology, but the "dismal theorem" has proven true, and we've used our technological gains only to dig ourselves deeper in the hole.

When it materializes here is another question. I'm guessing November is when we start to feel the pressure. I'd suggest start paying attention because ignorance is about to start to bite hard.
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#14
Sorry, the end of the world prediction have been going on for hundreds of years... and so far they have all be wrong.

I lived through the doom and gloom 70's and thank god those nuts were not allowed to do carry out their plans... one of which was to spread coal dust on the polar caps to keep the suns heat from reflecting back into space.

These new nuts know just as little as the old nuts.

as for buying time with technology... funny how that works huh... which comes first the need or the tech? lefties say the tech comes first, righties say the need comes first.


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I do not believe that America is better than everybody else...
America "IS" everybody else.
HBAT
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I do not believe that America is better than everybody else...
America "IS" everybody else.
The Wilder Side Of Hawaii
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#15
People have been saying Jesus is returning for 2000 years too. . .

I'm not, nor are many.

Those who cherry pick for an agenda are the best suited to find others that might cherry pick for an agenda. This doesn't necessarily disprove a trend. Evidence is key. Be informed. Don't follow the hype, follow the evidence.

Elsewise, Good luck!
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#16
Yep, don't follow the hype... agreed. but the evidence seems to be getting tampered with....




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I do not believe that America is better than everybody else...
America "IS" everybody else.
HBAT
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I do not believe that America is better than everybody else...
America "IS" everybody else.
The Wilder Side Of Hawaii
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#17
Sure,

When Galileo discovered the moons of Jupiter some agenda driven folks dinked with the evidence for 100 years or so. Because they were influential they forced him to even recant what everyone had seen with their own eyes.

When Magellan sailed around the world some agenda driven folks dinked with the evidence for a 100 years ago. The world was flat for a long time for a lot of people. There are still those who hold to that.

Of course 100 years past Darwin's research and we're still fighting with this issue.

Look, this is a country in which half the people believe the Earth is 6000 years old and fava beans have souls. . .don't expect an informed debate. In fact one can run for president and win on that mindset. Or get appointed to the the Supreme Court.

The problem is we don't have another 100 years dink around waiting for the pathological primitives to catch up any more. We're playing for keeps right now. We need answers right now. No one, not even those Erhlich would have dared to suggest that the human race would be so ignorant and selfish as to put itself into the spot that it is right now. Were they wrong? No, they were far too optimistic assuming that intelligent people would see the evidence and change their ways of living. This is where they were wrong.

Well, so be it.
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#18
Does anyone know how many gallons of Round-up the County sprays each year? Or how much money they spend on it, and how can I find out?
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#19
JWFITIZ is right about GMO biting the dust.

<http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message762397/pg1>

"Massive" Crop Failure Of Monsanto GM Corn In South Africa
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Monsanto GM-corn harvest fails massively in South AfricaPublished Mar 29, 2009 by ¦ Adriana Stuijt

South African farmers suffered millions of dollars in lost income when 82,000 hectares of genetically-manipulated corn (maize) failed to produce hardly any seeds.The plants look lush and healthy from the outside. Monsanto has offered compensation.

Monsanto blames the failure of the three varieties of corn planted on these farms, in three South African provinces,on alleged 'underfertilisation processes in the laboratory". Some 280 of the 1,000 farmers who planted the three varieties of Monsanto corn this year, have reported extensive seedless corn problems."
Lee Eisenstein
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#20
I recently read that Monsanto is buying up the independent seed companies in the U.S.

Not a good idea in my opinion.
Assume the best and ask questions.

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