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I can understand all the problems that casinos bring, but that's a good chunk of money heading towards Nevada every year. And to illegal gambling setups locally. Legalizing gambling is also a way of getting tourists to leave more cash behind.
Strange that Hawaii is one of the very few states with no gambling at all. Principles before money? Amazing, and to be applauded.
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gambling has been outlawed for the longest time. Why? Look at the majority of ethnic races here. Then think of the people you seem to see a lot of on the gambling floors in Vegas & Reno...then you know why Hawaii doesn't want gambling here.
Hey, let's face it. Gambling would be a real shot to the local economy if they had some casinos on certain islands here. But like most places, the majority of locals who gambling are the ones who really can't afford that...bet! But on the same hand, it think our state should consider a state lottery with 45% of all proceeds going to the DOE. We need something for our local economy.
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Gambling is not an economic shot in the arm for anyone. It often draws the poor and the elderly hoping for that miracle win. I find the Native American casino's of southern California very sad places who ramp up for the dates welfare and social security checks arrive...
It would be nice to hing the money comes for tourists but is doesn't...
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We the people are held back by a deficit of freedom, imho.
I'm no fan of gambling but would support offshore operations run for public economic benefit.
Yes, we could learn a great deal from Holland and their liberal, prosperous and free society.
Perhaps we need more freedom to craft policies regarding behavior between consenting adults, without counterproductive government intrusion and prohibitions.
There is no freedom without the freedom to say "no".
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I whole heartidly agree that gambling establishments are targeted at the poor, and the old! In their personal circumstance they see hope in the big jackpot. It is a parasitic drain on their emotions and their pocketbooks. I agree with psl these are the most depressing places to visit, watching those without hope putting what little resources they have at their disposal into a box, hungry for the jackpot.
There are 2 casinos in my town of 12,000 people. Yep 2 and a third one in the planning stages!
The California Lottery sounded like such a good idea, although I voted against it. The promise was 70% of the proceeds would go to the support of schools. Well all fine and good, however what did the state do, it removed the monies the lottery provided dollar for dollar from the state budget for the schools. So no net gain from the schools! Deplorable in my opinion.
Yes there is no freedom without the freedom to say no. Saying no to religion is also one of the civil rights I support. That is not to say I'm not spiritual, it is just to say the my way or the highway folks have it all wrong, jmo.
I think gambling does exist in Hawaii, correct me if I'm wrong but it is legal and it is called cock fighting.
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"Yes, we could learn a great deal from Holland and their liberal, prosperous and free society"
Spending lots of time in Holland, let me add my two cents.
We really do see ourselves a pragmatic culture rather than liberal one. We do not gamble, 'cause we know about risk and reward. As a culture we do not embrace gambling for that reason, rather we work or invest for our stuff - its sure fire!.
Same goes for drugs and prostitution being "tourist" industries. I had some contact with the business side of a brothel, The employees where unionized, had contact with the cops weekly to screen out sexual deviants, be violent with a hooker - expect a call from your local cops - shrink in tow.
When one walks into a "coffee shop" you will find tourist and locals under 20 or so, drug use by adults is rare, viewed as arrested development.
We try to solve our domestic problems in a pragmatic way - free from knee jerk "principles or political views" The solution needs to work - not satisfy some religious or political dogma. We as a nation are looking for solutions to social problems, having learned long ago that a culture can not legislate morality.
My passport opens with --- "Her majesty the queen requests that ...." nice to know the govt is working for me, rather than the other way around, demanded by us pragmatic citizens, It begins by holding the government accountable to the greater good not the lobbyists.
IMHO - Personal freedoms, drugs, gambling, etc requires a greater responsibility of its citizens if it is to work. Look around here in Hawaii - who does best? seems to me the pragmatic self actualized self responsible folks do really well, those who expect "some one else" to fix things, are soon back on a outbound flight.
Gambling, drugs, complete deregulation of vices for Hawaii - sure But lets look into following the "Dutch" model by bringing personal responsibility and pragmatism back to the table first.
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Is cock fighting really legal in Hawaii??? Or just tolerated? If it is legal, then it is time to change THAT!
I think gambling does exist in Hawaii, correct me if I'm wrong but it is legal and it is called cock fighting.
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Casinos remove more money from the area than they invest. It can never be the other way around or a casino won't stay in business. A casino cannot be an economic "savior" long term.
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In Missouri we have casinos. They aren't really a nuisance and adults, poor or not, can choose what they want to do with their money imo. I personally think it's dumb for people to spend their money on fatty foods and junk food, but I won't vote to make it illegal, even if obesity is one of the top killers in the U.S. due to the cardiovascular and diabetic complications that it causes.
During this election their is a ballot to limit the number of casinos in Missouri and to require a percentage for the Missouri DOE which is estimated to bring in $130 million a year. Not bad. We don't have to deal with casinos popping up in inconvenient locations.. and we get a bigger cut now.
We also have a lottery which is run by multiple states and brings in an additional $200 million or so a year for education. Not bad.
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State lotteries are becoming ever more popular .... Are they really for the schools though? Have a look at how much is skimmed off the top (administration and operations) and you will see that the operators and the states are the winners, the gambler and schools get hind teat
In my opinion if the schools are not getting at least 90 percent - its just another government industrial scam
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