Decks

[pam jones]

Carey
Glad you asked but if memory serves me well I don't think the color green was anywhere in sight and now I am really concerned as we bought these 4x4's to be used both inside and out. Matter of fact I have every intention of painting them if it ever stops raining. I am wondering if it would behoove me to coat them w/ both Hi-Bor and Cedarshield or would that be overkill? Since both are in the over $30.00 range cost isn't so much a factor. We are using 4x4's for the frame and as beams throughout each octagon(my husband is making his own metal brackets and anything else metal, since he can afterall weld, "the crack of dawn". Any ideas from previous post and pier experts as to the best and safest termite protection would be much appreciated. Now to find all those "tag thingys." Pam 2...maybe pj would be easier since there are so many Pams

[mella l]

Hey suit yourself. I think PJ is great!! LOL!! Does that come with fuzzy slippas too?? Aloha Mella L

mella l

[allensylves]

Also look for wood preservatives containing copper naphthenate. Usually they give a green color. I bought one that gave a brown color and did not like the results. I use it to soak bamboo poles for use in the garden and they last a LOT better. Dipping/soaking is much better than painting on, but anything will help. They are in a mineral spirits solvent, so they will not leach out in rain like Hi-Bor.
Copper naphthenate does not contain arsenic or other heavy metals, so it is much safer for children, etc.
Allen
Baton Rouge, LA & HPP

Edited by - allensylves on 03/01/2006 23:41:08

[HADave]

Aloha Pam>PJ The wood probably won't have a green tint to it because they stopped producing cca treated lumber a few years ago, I believe, and it was very green now it's probably kind of a semi transparent brown color but your taggie should tell you.
If it is Osmose weathershield it should have covered protection for termites, rot and decay but recommends a sealer periodically I'd say the cedarshield would be a great product for this new pt lumber.

Buzz, I was just reading further about painting staining old cca material with regard to peeling and it says not recommended for use with anything other than oil based products no latex especially the new lead free stuff, which reminds me, I have all kinds of people telling me the new lead free latex paints don't seem to adhere as well as the old lead based latex paints lots of premature peeling. So anyone out painting buyer beware.

HADave

PS IF it is Osmose weathershield on the tag please let me know as it would answer my original question.



Edited by - HADave on 03/01/2006 20:55:24

[HADave]

Well Buzz sorry to have to tell you this but Behr was the choice Deck Plus solid Latex was the stain prepped w Quick Fix wood resurfacer and primed with their latex primer. Warranty, probably, problem, did the job at the end of summer 2005 by December, in our mild winter this year it started to peel from the rain and only where the rain beats hard and only where the wood is horizontal. Can't deal with warranty and stripping and refinishing because we are in the process of packing and selling to move this spring / summer. No time for this aggrevation, I feel bad for the next guy but ****happens. Besides the can reads over application leads to surface failure, peeling cracking. Avoid applying to heavily. Do Not Apply more than two coats. For optimun performance, coat all six sides of wood. They always word their way out of responsibility, don't they..) It would take more than a month to fix this especially in the spring when we get the most of our rain...aarrrr! Moving forward and staying away from Latex products.

BummAHDave

[pam jones]

Man you guys are better than a book on info! I get so excited I forget to say mahalo but mahalo plenty for all your wisdom and shared experience!! Since we are on the subject of paint/termite protection, do those little packets of powder they sell to add to your paint for additional protection work and if so does adding that to your paint compromise the paints ability or warrinty in any way?pj

[leilaniguy]

Last time I bought paint at HPM I asked the clerk to add the fungicide and he told me they now put it in the paint at the factory. It was exterior, don't know if they put it in interior.

[loffelkopffl]

yeah everybody i know adds the fungicide packets to their exterior paint, they sell it at home depot, ive used it on two houses and haven't seen any mildew, yet. i also use oil based primer and paint on my deck which is on the windward side of my house and have repainted it every year, seems to work going on 8 years now. i had a friend who didn't and ended up replacing his deck after ten years.

[lkrider]

We'd like to save on deck maintenance altogether and go with one of those composite materials. The deck we hang out at up on our mountain (now that it's warm enough to actual eat outside while taking a break from the slopes) was replaced with this stuff (Trex or Evergrain or some such). While it's not as attractive as wood, no rot no paint no nothin' is appealing. Has anybody used this stuff?
Linda in CO