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Tptplyr1,your information is helpful and interesting.
But before assuming about "sneaking" plants in the container,it would be
nice if you actually read,not just scan the original post
where it clearly stated about the legal way
of brining the plants.Then you wouldn't have to apologize for the rant.
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Hotzcatz,thank you for your input.I missed your post,sorry.
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StillHope-the rant wasn't meant to be directed towards you or anyone in particular that has posted. It is a problem that I have seen done in other situations in the past and was directed towards those instances. I know once again, it's hard to communicate clearly the intent of our written words at times and I apologize if you felt it was directed towards you.
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Dean, will you be setting up a new horticultural business in HPP?
Who have you had the best results in ordering in plants from?
Do you think organizing a plant buyer's co-op to consolidate orders to save on shipping would be a good thing? Most nurseries have a minimum order limit and I'd love to order stuff directly from Dave Wilson nurseries but they have some really high minimum requirements.
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Hotzcatz-I don't plan to set up a nursery in HPP but growing plants is in my blood, I guess. I have a few ideas that I'm kicking around at this point in terms of an ag business but really not sure yet. As most of my plants were brought in for commercial sales at stores such as Home Depot, Lowes, independent garden shops, NEX and supermarkets they may not interest the average home owner. I can see if a group of people were putting in some bedding plant areas and wanted to do things like impatiens, vincas, dianthus, gerberas, coleus, or groundcovers, it would make sense to combine orders. I would combine orders on such things as hydrangeas, poinsettias, cactus and some other plants with friends in the business to help with the cost of freight. For these types of plants I have a plant broker that can handle these orders. They normally search for what I am looking to order and find the best deal. The price is the same as buying direct, as they get a cut from the supplier, but the advantage is that if something goes wrong with the shipment, the broker will handle the claims and issues that come up. Again, if you are talking about plants that I have mentioned above, some of the growers that I found dependable would be Knox Nursery, The Plug Connection, Yoder, Ecke, Park Seed and McCutchinson. So I think that if you can get a group together it would be beneficial.
As far as tree stock such as from Dave Wilson-(disclaimer)I just glanced through their website-research needs to be done as far as shipping costs and whether they ship to Hawaii. Often times it's not worth the hassle and risk shipping to us, as the amount of time it takes to get here and the perishable nature of the commodity is a challenge. When I bring in hydrangeas, they are coming from the suppliers coolers and kept in refrigeration until I pick them up in Honolulu. While a plant may cost $2.65 the shipping comes out to about $2.00 per plant. These are shipped on Matson so it takes 14 days from when it leaves the suppliers nursery. If I had to air ship these plants the freight would be around two to three times as much. This is also another way that the broker can help. They know the most cost effective shipping method and also sometimes can "pressure" a grower to ship to us because they do a lot of business with them on the mainland.
Maybe if we were to create a wish list to see what people would like to order that would be a start. Over the years I would special order plants for people to coincide with orders that I had coming in. I may be able to speak with some of the growers on the Big Island to see if something like that could be done. But I think starting a list would be the first step.
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Several times I've ordered plants in conjunction with my neighbors to get better prices on shipping. Bay Laurel Nursery has a set shipping price once you reach a certain number of plants or trees and they ship to Hawaii. They sent the trees via air freight and they came through much better than similar trees I bought in Hilo that had come over on a container ship. I generally try to plant one or two fruit trees a year, eventually this place is going to get overpopulated with fruit trees but so far there have been corners to put them in. Should you be getting ready to put an order in with one of these online nurseries, you could let us know if you wanted extra people to go in on your order to increase the order amount. I generally just get one or two trees, not a whole lot.
It's kinda the wrong season to plant a tree right now, isn't it?
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