republic, frontier and southwest airlines

[Obie]

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Originally posted by Laughing_girl

SWA, at the start, pioneered a new model of running an airline and made it profitable at that. Although Herb Kelleher is no longer a day to day fixture there, hopefully some of his methodology for running an airline will stay.

Although Hawaii is out of their comfort zone at the moment, I would not be surprised to look to SWA to shake up the typical formulas here if they enter this market - (not as a code share).

In 2006, SWA purchased it's first 737-700 and was scheduled for del of 44 more - "The aircraft has recently received federal approval for 180-minute ETOPS (extended range twin-engine operations) flights -- meaning that it can travel over oceans, as long as it's within three hours flight time of an airport, which it will be in this case." (from http://www.bizjournals.com/wichita/stori...tory7.html)

There are also white tails that Aloha had that are already available.

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The Aloha aircraft are gone.

N738AL and N739AL are going to a carrier named JetLite in India.

N745AL and N750AL are working with GOL in Brazil right now, serving as PR-GID and PR-GIH.

N740AL, N741AL and N742AL were flown to the UK (Lasham) quite quickly and obviously destined for Arik Air in Nigeria, Africa.

N751AL should be the one flying for SunCountry.

N746AL and N748AL are planned for VRG (former Varig) also in Brazil but are not taken up yet.

As mentioned by other ,it would be very expensive to bring all of those aircraft up to etops standards and a logistical night mare to have just a few and route them to Hawaii.Spare parts also need to be etops certified along with any maintenance personnel who work on any parts or aircraft.
Not really in SWA's modus operandi.

[Bullwinkle]

From the FAA ETOPS requirement section:


"An airline with extensive experience operating long distance flights may be awarded ETOPS operational approval immediately; others may need to demonstrate ability through a series of ETOPS proving flights. An ETOPS operational approval rating cannot exceed the ETOPS type approval rating of a fixed-wing aircraft."

[JerryCarr]

I'll never forget my first trip on a Delta L-1011 from Atlanta to London. After about two hours, I asked a flight attendant why we weren't out of our initial climb. She smiled and said, "This is a great aircraft, but it flies on the slant." And yes, some of the FAs struggled with the drinks carts. It was, however, one of the smoothest, most comfortable planes in my long history of long-haul flying.

Bringing this back to Hawaii, I believe Delta used L-1011s on their Atlanta-Hawaii service in the late 80's and well into the 90's. Anyone remember for sure?

Cheers,
Jerry

[Obie]

The last scheduled revenue flight was in 2001.

Did you know the aircraft used in the TV show Lost was a Delta ,ex Eastern L 1011 ??