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I'm aware of history and how the system works. Although I'm not an expert my knowledge in those areas is well above average. The current system, while not perfect, has worked well for us, better than what anyone else has had. The War of Northern Aggression [
] (that's a joke son) was not the end to strong states rights. It was an aberration and simply finished business the founding fathers were unable to complete.
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Oink:
I got the joke- a good one. Wry humor.
And I agree with your last sentence.
In a sense, the Revolutionary War was a civil war too.
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Since our Founding Fathers could not come to grips with the issue of slavery (which actually paid for the Revolutionary War as it was Geo. Washington and other large Virginia plantation owners who actually financed it!), they compromised with the 3/5ths count of individuals who were slaves. And that issue (not the reality of treatment of people other than caucasians) was settled by the Civil War. But there were entire blocks of citizenry not allowed to vote...non-landowners, non-readers, women, etc.
The Electoral College was actually the mechanism for our most of our Founding Fathers to keep the masses from voting. They actually feared the votes of the "riff-raff,"the common folk of the day. If you really know the history of the U.S. Constitution, you'd know that it was conflict between the 13 original colonies operating under the Articles of Confederation that prompted the 2nd Constitutional Convention that came up with our Constitution. And the Electoral College was its compromise with state vs. federal rights.
Over the years, the Electoral College has been changed so that now, the big states have less power than various swing states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida. And it falls down to the fact that the first candidate to take enough states to total 270 delegates wins the presidency. That's it; and sometimes, as when our current president was elected, that's decided before election polls in Hawaii are still open.
This proposal calls for a straight up-and-down popular vote across all 50 states, which I believe would reengage our youth, most of whom seem to totally distrust or fail to have any personal investment in the system now in place. And it would allow more than the dominant 2-parties to field candidates.
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straight up-and-down popular vote = the more than 50% that pay no taxes voting to spend other people's money. Hopefully we never go to mob rule aka democracy.
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50% including children?
Or GE who got 8 billion from the taxpayers by "aggressive accounting" in 2010?
Wish we could all get away with some "aggressive accounting".
I wonder, any Hawaii corps engage in "aggressive accounting"?
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"Proportional representation would make it more likely that the the political representation would be more representative."
I agree!
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@punaticbychoice -
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011...cal-income
But your right in that our vote really doesn't count when compared to the power of mega-corporation lobbying so really the point of this is all mute.
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Oink, Please define, "us".
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Originally posted by oink
I'm aware of history and how the system works. Although I'm not an expert my knowledge in those areas is well above average. The current system, while not perfect, has worked well for us, better than what anyone else has had. The War of Northern Aggression [] (that's a joke son) was not the end to strong states rights. It was an aberration and simply finished business the founding fathers were unable to complete.
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Lee Eisenstein
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In this instance it means you, me, our neighbors and our countrymen/women in general.
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