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[kalakoa]

Rather, hackers are there because of the Internet.

Media has redefined the term; in the olden days, "hackers" were not purposely destructive.

http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/meaning-of-hack.html

[peteadams]

"There would be no internet if it weren't for the subversives (you may call hackers all though I don't just mean hackers)"

Rather a fantasy view of history. Development of the internet (Arpanet initially as pointed out) has been and always will be a highly technical fusion of math, science and technology. You may be thinking of the many academic contributors like UC Berkeley where Unix and the C language were developed. In no way would they be characterized as subversives.

[KeaauRich]

And with all due respect to Rob, am I the only one who finds it ironic that posting copyrighted newspaper articles on Punaweb isn't allowed, but promoting a website that illegally distributes copyrighted TV shows and motion pictures is allowed?

[Rob Tucker]

I have no knowledge that the web site I posted is illegal. It is a web site. What arrangements they made to provide the material is unknown to me. Someone else can make that determination.

[Derrick Barnicoat]

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Originally posted by Derrick Barnicoat
There would be no internet if it weren't for the subversives (you may call hackers all though I don't just mean hackers).

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Wrong. The Internet was invented by the Department of Defense (not directly but by university researchers under contract). It was ARPANET for many years before it got the name Internet.

In fact, university researchers feel the existing Internet has turned into a ghetto and no longer suitable for their use. Internet 2 has been in development for several years now and it is a closed network, being able to transfer a Blu-ray movie in seconds, not hours. No, the Internet is not there because of hackers, it is there because of scientists and engineers, just like everything else we define as civilization. Rather, hackers are there because of the Internet. Remember that if you get a notice that your credit card has been compromised.



"This island Hawaii on this island Earth"

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You may disagree but the Arpanet would have never gone public if hackers weren't constantly messing with it. They had to go public with it because the hackers made it public knowledge. Apple was started by a couple hackers Jobs and Woz made there first million off of making black boxes. The arpanet was used only for military and government purposes. The internet was not really the internet until it went public.

Every advancement made with home computing was done by precocious and young minds who had the ability to see what could be done and made it happen. The corporations usually just refine stuff that was already done. Scientists do make advancements but they have different uses for computing that usually don't translate into the average persons life. Maybe google maps is a good example of something that translated over from science computing to personal computing being that it uses gps and topography etc. etc.

[Derrick Barnicoat]

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Originally posted by kalakoa

Rather, hackers are there because of the Internet.

Media has redefined the term; in the olden days, "hackers" were not purposely destructive.

http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/meaning-of-hack.html

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I feel like hackers have always been both destructive and productive depending on the particular hacker but at the end of the day they all improve technology. In this day and age they are really just making the internet more secure and keeping it "free" ,so to speak, actually just less intrusive and regulated at the same time.

[birchl]

I used to have wild blue/exede but was suddenly cut off without warning. On contacting them they informed me it was because of alleged copy right infringements incurred whilst down loading bit torrent on vuze. I could not convince them to reconnect me and have now discovered they have deducted $200 direct from my bank account for ending my contract early. When I tried to call them to complain, the automatic phone system refused to take a call from the phone number associated with the account. I have no idea how to get my money back. So, I suppose the moral of that story is that there is no such thing as free.

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[peteadams]

"You may disagree but the Arpanet would have never gone public if hackers weren't constantly messing with it. They had to go public with it because the hackers made it public knowledge.”

Arpanet was never a secret. The DOD/DARPA wanted to be in better and faster contact with the corporations and universities who held contracts with them. For professors and students Arpanet was the one of the best shiny new toys that had ever come down the road, particularly for the Computer Science department. But corporations and all academic fields benefited. The universities in particular found the rapid communication ability of an internet between researchers to be an enormous resource, just as more or less everybody has discovered in the last ten or fifteen years. The evolution from rarefied university resource to nearly a public utility today (which it will be if the FCC finally implements real net neutrality) was simply a natural progression as a result of a lot of hard work on the basics (Unix, C, TCP/IP, routers, fiber optics, graphical interfaces, etc.). Not dependent on imagined histories of glitzy outlaw “hackers" at all.

"Apple was started by a couple hackers Jobs and Woz made there first million off of making black boxes.”

By black boxes you’re probably referring to the “Captain Crunch” “Blue Box" telephone long-distance spoofers that Wozniak built in 1971. Actually, when Apple was incorporated in 1977 with the release of the Apple II it was only worth about $5300 according to Jobs’ biography.

[kalakoa]

DOD/DARPA wanted to be in better and faster contact

That was later. Initial DOD research scope was "resilient self-healing communications network" that could survive enemy attack.

[peteadams]

That's an old myth, at least regarding enemy attack. Post-Arpanet they were more concerned about going dark due to major local outages, much like some of the electrical grid failures. Geeks are concerned about "sustainability" also!

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5 It was from the RAND study that the false rumor started claiming that the ARPANET was somehow related to building a network resistant to nuclear war. This was never true of the ARPANET, only the unrelated RAND study on secure voice considered nuclear war. However, the later work on Internetting did emphasize robustness and survivability, including the capability to withstand losses of large portions of the underlying networks.

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http://internetsociety.org/internet/what...y-internet