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Tulsi Gabbard called up for Puna guard duty
#21
It doesn't appear to be an insurmountable problem for Guardsman to serve in the House or Senate, since 30 of them are running for office. Six are currently serving, so it doesn't seem there's any conflict at all:

Guardsmen on Ballots in November
(October 21, 2014) More than 30 current or former National Guardsmen across the country are bidding for election next month to the House or Senate.
http://www.ngaus.org/newsroom/news/guard...s-november
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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#22
interesting situation, nonetheless. be curious what standard procedures are in place for a number of rather awkward scenarios i can imagine. in any case, for the representative, politically an asset in the public's eye i suppose. those uniforms tend to get the romanticized blood flowing in our popular culture.
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#23
I wish they could take some of that cash and give it to the people that are losing their homes. Personally, if lava was coming for my own home, I wouldn't want a bunch of national guards people walking all over my property.


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#24
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Originally posted by lavarat

I think it would be in conflict with the US Constitution if the Hawaii National Guard had been federalized by the President, but it has not been federalized and is still under the control of the state.

The National Guard is under the Authority of the United States/POTUS and the board of Governors.
It's not a matter of being in the national guard, it's a matter of being a reservist and any reservist may run for political office.
Hawaii does not have it's own guard. Ie... no Hawaii Guard like many other states have. It's the Hawaii National Guard.

After reading more about the specifics involved -
I would consider it a grey area but technically not in violation of the Constitution but ripe for oddity. For active duty personnel, it's definitely in violation of the Constitution.
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#25
It's not a gray area. Federal law guarantees the right to take time off from work to attend to your military responsibilities.

You don't elect POTUS as a civilian boss. You elect POTUS to be Commander In Chief. As for active duty being called to the National Guard, that is a nonsense statement. Congress is basically the same as civil service except for being put into position by the whim of the people instead of being qualified for the position.

This is just a civil servant reporting for annual military duty required by the National Guard. There are considerations given to employment situations and this military leave -- that is what it is called in the government -- is being scheduled during a break in congress.

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#26
A great photo op.
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#27
Tulsi's anti-Constitutional "photo op" will probably get a lot more accomplished for Puna, than the moan & groan ops taken in response to her Guard service in Puna.

Boots on the ground or rubba slippas on the desktop? One is doing her best to interact with the public in a time of crisis, the other, doing what's possible to keep Frito crumbs out of the keyboard.

"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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#28
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Originally posted by pahoated

It's not a gray area. Federal law guarantees the right to take time off from work to attend to your military responsibilities.

You don't elect POTUS as a civilian boss. You elect POTUS to be Commander In Chief. As for active duty being called to the National Guard, that is a nonsense statement. Congress is basically the same as civil service except for being put into position by the whim of the people instead of being qualified for the position.

This is just a civil servant reporting for annual military duty required by the National Guard. There are considerations given to employment situations and this military leave -- that is what it is called in the government -- is being scheduled during a break in congress.

"Mahalo nui Pele, 'ae noho ia moku 'aina" - kakahiaka oli


Please I'm not here to argue. The national guard is subject to the UCMJ when activated once annually during their training period and also if called into federal activation by the President of the United States. During their activation they are subject to the UCMJ. All other members within other branches of military service are subject to the UCMJ during reserve, active and into retirement (retirement subjugation to the UCMJ has no real teeth). The statement I made was not exclusive to the National Guard with regard to active duty.

The National Guard is a reserve service and subject to activation. Activation beyond 270 days warrants particular measures when one is also serving in the capacity of elected positions.

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#29
Here's where the grey area is. If I was Lt. James Doe reservist in any branch of service and was also elected to Congress and sitting on a select military R&D committee as a congressman I could also have my highest commanding officers by the gonads. I could effectively use this to work my way through the ranks much more quickly.
There's a grey area scenario. It's a conflict of interest.
Better yet... the military floods Congress with reservist in the hopes to gain control of Congress or at minimum to covertly direct policies with merely a handful.

I don't like it one iota and feel that it still violates the intention of article 1 section 6 clause 2 of the Constitution.
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#30
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Originally posted by HereOnThePrimalEdge

Tulsi's anti-Constitutional "photo op" will probably get a lot more accomplished for Puna, than the moan & groan ops taken in response to her Guard service in Puna.

Boots on the ground or rubba slippas on the desktop? One is doing her best to interact with the public in a time of crisis, the other, doing what's possible to keep Frito crumbs out of the keyboard.


How many times have you had your boots on the ground? I know I served my time, boots on ground in air and sea along with weapon in hand... and you?
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