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MarkD, that is interesting, given our lenient judges. Maybe they would be less lenient if sentences could be served as you describe.
It would be nice to know that the habitual burglars and meth-head squatters would have a location history, so one slip-up and they get harsher limits or real jail time.
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extra special good would be for the monitoring bracelet to advise them one time and if no compliance then shock the **** out of them... that might work...
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I think there's a place for ankle bracelets, but am not convinced they'll work for people who ram police cars to get away and continue to commit violent crimes. How will they prevent them committing crimes on their own property or when they just feel like doing it, go out and commit other violent crimes? I'm thinking specifically of Puna where if the bracelet sends the alarm, it's still going to take the police a long time to get there.
And how comfortable would you feel as a neighbor of someone like this even if they were wearing a bracelet?
lquade - I really understand your thoughts about giving shocks but for the life of me, I can't agree this is a good thing. What if it malfunctioned? What if the perp managed to take it off and put it on someone else? I'd rather they were treated humanely but kept out of the community. I know it's expensive but having a community not living in fear outweighs the cost in my opinion.
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Agree fully on keeping the violent ones locked up. But a large percent of inmates, perhaps 80%, are non-violent offenders: theft and drug offenses. These are candidates for bracelets.
lquade's point is the big debate here: do you have some sort of incapacitation function in the monitoring system? (One idea, wild perhaps, is that inmates wear large magnets on each ankle that are turned on only at a signal. Then they cannot walk. (am unaware of technological feasibility here) Some pretty smart people are working on this whole topic.
Current prison conditions are often bad. People overcrowded in tiny cages for years, use of solitary confinement, prison rape. Almost any system that allows inmates to be out and about would be favored by inmates, even if it was highly restrictive. The complaints will come from civil libertarians and prison unions (loss of jobs).
The concept would probably involve inmates living in a open prison, somewhat akin to military barracks. They are allowed out from say 7 a.m. to 5 p.m. to work. Backing up this system is a conventional prison where work inmates who violate rules get sent back to. That facility needs to be pretty harsh in terms of (lack of) amenities to serve as a deterrent. Inmate outcomes must alway be controlled by punishment for violations.
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Originally posted by HereOnThePrimalEdge
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Not exactly an eye for an eye though, since most HPP residents don't have brass knuckles and sawed off shotguns. As far as I know.
But they do in Hawaiian Acres. That's probably why he ventured into HPP.
I'm optimistic he will receive an appropriately stiff sentence. It's unfortunate a lobotomy can't be mandated, though his photo makes it appear as if this procedure has already been utilized.
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Originally posted by EightFingers
Unfortunately, Rivera will never see this as a consequence of his actions. He'll look at it as an attack on him by the haole in HPP. The crimes he commits are simply an entitlement that he thinks the haole owe him.
Im not so sure. When you as far gone as him, its more drug induced IMO. Not to mention I think his accomplice was "haole" and he himself has a hapa haole bloodline. The meth will make people steal from friends and family. Really think if the meth disappeared it would resolve 90% of crimes on BI.
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So how do we take down meth as a community?
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Stop prosecuting meth as a criminal problem and start treating it as a health problem.
It really is cheaper to just give addicts their fix and provide them somewhere to do it. Some are even able to turn their lives around once they stop hustling.
It's also far too radically progressive an idea for Hawaii. Look no further than how they've been treating medical marijuana for almost two decades.
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Although there is some violence associated with meth, weed psychosis
just leads to the munchies.
