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snorkle - You guys will all deny any racist thoughts, yet regularly utter opinions, generalizations, and stereotypical attitudes that say otherwise.
But your contributions of course have been a model of nuance and precision, free from any broad generalizations, stereotypes, or displaced blame. Pot - this is the kettle calling, stop being such a tool! (PS - when you appropriate others' work, it's customary to give credit, but I guess you GZF about being a Shanky - urbandictionary, such a fount of wisdom)
"If you don't like it here, you can go back to where you came from". Indigenous peoples don't have that luxury.
But of course they do - Tahiti and the Marqueses are to the south, just find the north star and sail the other way. In all honesty, it's clearly in the islands' best interests that we all go back to where we came from. Unless snorkle has a more equitable solution?
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a deal struck........Astrologers will go back to work.
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2019/08/09...mit-again/
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No, because "subjects" had the freedom to leave their Ahupua'a for another
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"If you don't like it here, you can go back to where you came from". Indigenous peoples don't have that luxury.
Oh I see! Hawaiians could leave their Ahupua’a for another, but they couldn’t return to their home islands to the south, which makes all the difference? Sweet potato, sweet patahto?
Your response to my last three examples doesn’t hold water.
The first example as well. Kamehameha didn’t have to accept and use western technology, it was his choice. Good supporting precedent by the monarchy for the TMT though. The King made a decision to use Western technology when offered to him, right?
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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stopped by protesters asking what your intentions are and creating a traffic jam while doing so, is that a peaceful and lawful demonstration?
Peaceful, yes; lawful, no. Disclaimer: assumes baseline rule of law, and that highway is public. Where a privately-owned road is open to the public, the landowners may enjoy access "in favor of those entitled thereto", which language I have always taken to mean merely "right of way". Uniform Traffic Code clearly states that once "open to the public" for six months, the road may not be closed or otherwise restricted. By this reading, even if DHHL land can somehow be construed as "private", the road is still "open to the public".
"If you don't like it here, you can go back to where you came from"
I was born on lands that were taken from indigenous people, so I should go back to where exactly? Are we going to resettle the world based on blood quanta? What happens to property rights? I paid for this land, I built a house, who will reimburse me if I'm forced to leave?
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Astrologers will go back to work.
Finally some good news. The astrologers can get back to their horoscopes, and the astronomers will regain access to their telescopes too.
Let’s hope it’s the start of a long term equitable resolution.
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Astrologers will go back to work.
Tom’s going to love this. [
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I see... an exasperated Brit in your future...
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Hey HOTPE, what’s your sign? I’m asparagus.
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Kamehameha's rise to power was definitely a result of his embracing western technology. He was quite happy to do so. No arguing necessary. What of it? Are you suggesting that the natives are too simple to be responsible for their own decisions?
ETA: If only they could have held out on their own till 1941. The Japanese would have been so much nicer than us nasty Americans.
