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Chile is ... permanently unable to see things that are visible here.
Maybe that's the protestors' plan.
Get enough people packed into the Access Road turnoff, their combined weight will spin the Earth in a way the ELT can view the entire sky. Problem solved.
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.... because they dont grow on trees....
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save our indigenous and endemic Hawaiian Plants... learn about them, grow them, and plant them on your property, ....instead of all that invasive non-native garbage I see in most yards... aloha
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save our indigenous and endemic Hawaiian Plants... learn about them, grow them, and plant them on your property, ....instead of all that invasive non-native garbage I see in most yards... aloha
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superior or inferior??? lol
Canary Island site..... 6,000' elevation
Mauna Kea site ....13,300' elevation, ...with cleanest air in World
7,300' difference...
IOW the site in the Canaries is a few hundred feet lower than the intersection on Saddle Rd where the TMT Bandwagoners are...
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save our indigenous and endemic Hawaiian Plants... learn about them, grow them, and plant them on your property, ....instead of all that invasive non-native garbage I see in most yards... aloha
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save our indigenous and endemic Hawaiian Plants... learn about them, grow them, and plant them on your property, ....instead of all that invasive non-native garbage I see in most yards... aloha
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bananahead, you are preaching to the choir. With activists saying "we already have telescopes up there, why do we need more" I think the level of discourse is below sea level and sinking.
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Hey guys, don't feel too terrible, you've convinced me, at least. If its more ecofriendly and works better, the only reason not to support the TMT is fear or ignorance or both. The reason being that the older telescopes have more chance to cause environmental problems, so its just a no brainer to put double-hulled ones up there instead of the older models. Honestly, from that perspective, which is ...true, the older models, do, in fact, have a much greater chance of leaking...They should replace ALL of the old telescopes, they shouldn't stop with TMT.
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You make it sound like the existing observatories are leaky rust-buckets which couldn't be further from the truth.
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reni - as others have pointed out, the ELT is being built in Chile which is in the southern hemisphere. Although building the TMT in Chile wouldn't be completely pointless, it, like the ELT, won't be able to observe the northern sky, so half the observable universe would remain unobservable by a giant telescope. Perhaps you think that's irrelevant?
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Is the Northern sky more important than the Southern sky? If so, what exactly is more Important in the Northern sky?
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what exactly is more Important in the Northern sky?
Having both is more important. Would you pluck out one eye simply because the other is "more important"? Sure, you woudln't be completely blind, but you would have to do without depth perception.
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Is the Northern sky more important than the Southern sky?
Can you divide the study of a (more or less) infinite universe in half?
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