DHHL is seeking a private attorney

[Rob Tucker]

Hmmm. I think talking about lowering the standards for DHHL development just excuses DHHL for it's excesses. The problem is not that the standards are too high. The problems is DHHL uses development as a shakedown by over spending/charging.

DHHL needs a serious outside audit.

[randomq]

Living off grid, with no county water/sewer/electric/broadband/landlines, I feel very connected to the land and the weather. I also have very few bills compared to someone living in Hilo. I wonder if DHHL isn't doing Hawaiians a disservice by trying to put them in subdivisions with utilities.

If they were a functional organization, I'd say provide grants to new homesteaders to pay for catchment, solar, etc rather than hookups. If.

[Seeb]

How does DHHL get around the whole Fair Housing Act thing

[TomK]

"The mission of RCUH is to support the research and training programs of the University of Hawaii and to enhance research, development, and training generally in Hawaii.
above taken from link ...http://www.hawaii.edu/ors/training/PI_Orientation/archived_version/v1/documents/M4T2P1_rcuh_org_chart.pdf

you can interpret the mission statement how you wish..the AG lends legal counsel to this agency...the agency is part division of the AG

YOU being fed up is a BIG problem..."

I still have no idea what your point is. RCUH has to follow state laws and it wouldn't surprise me if they have used the AG to get advise about those laws, but you haven't shown that they do. And even if they do, what's the problem with that?

[Kaimana]

Seeb- It's because it was a condition of Hawaii becoming a Territory and State.

HOTPE- It would be close to zero because the lease for the DHHL land is only $1 a year, but you have to come up with the money or mortgage to buy/build the house on the lot. That's were most of the people who actually get picked from the list have to deny it and go back on the list.

randomq- 100% agree with you on that. They should get the consent of the beneficiaries and start to see if Tesla or any other reputable tech companies would be willing to work with them to create a subdivision that's ran off of 100% renewable energy. Maku'u could be the example for the rest of the state.

[Frank]

I still have no idea what your point is. RCUH has to follow state laws and it wouldn't surprise me if they have used the AG to get advise about those laws, but you haven't shown that they do. And even if they do, what's the problem with that?


I see NO problem with that at all. The problem is that the AGs law offices represent/counsel the UH AND DHHL on the same issues.

Its akin to you and airportparking, don't know if this handle is correct, having retained the same law firm in your dust-up here on punaweb. Would you accept that situation?

IT could be seen as a Conflict of Interest...well in my mind it is

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

the lease for the DHHL land is only $1 a year,

There is no cost for improvements? For instance, if I bought a leasehold property on Kona side, I would would pay the yearly lease fee, but my purchase price would include any improvements made on the property, a house or coffee trees, etc.

I thought one of the reasons the DHHL waiting list was so long was that Hawaiians couldn't afford a "buy-in" fee which paid for for the roads, water, etc. If that's not the case, is it then only a matter of the county building codes making construction unaffordable and consequently a bank loan unattainable?

If I drive through the DHHL lots between HPP and Pahoa there are plenty of vacant lots with paved roads and curbs out front, so presumably the water lines are installed as well. Why are those properties not built out?

[TomK]

"I see NO problem with that at all. The problem is that the AGs law offices represent/counsel the UH AND DHHL on the same issues."

So why did you bring up the RCUH?

[Frank]

quote:

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Originally posted by TomK

"I see NO problem with that at all. The problem is that the AGs law offices represent/counsel the UH AND DHHL on the same issues."

So why did you bring up the RCUH?

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read and connect the dots tom...

http://www.hawaii.edu/ors/training/PI_Or..._chart.pdf

[ironyak]

Not sure if this reply is even worth the effort given the source of this topic, but the State Attorney General's office provides legal advice to essentially all of the State agencies such as the BOE/DOE, Child Services/Family Court, DNLR, DHHL, Legislature, etc, etc, etc... From personal experience, the AG's office regularly provides legal advice for run-of-the-mill HR issues for state agencies at the local level.

If there is a conflict of interest (or grand conspiracy) then it would affect essentially every department of the State government, not just UH/DHHL. If you want independent review then get the Feds involved as HCCA is a Federal act administered by the State.

http://ag.hawaii.gov/about-us/overview/
Personally or through deputy attorneys general, the Attorney General (1) appears for the State in civil and criminal cases when the State is a party; (2) investigates violations of state laws, and initiates civil and criminal actions to enforce the laws or prosecute persons who violate them; (3) prepares legal opinions for the Governor, the Legislature, and the heads of state departments; (4) advises state officials on legal matters so that they may faithfully execute their duties and responsibilities; and (5) defends and represents state officials and employees when they are sued for actions they have taken or are about to take in connection with their state positions.