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Green Harvest - D.E.A. style ?
#21
Unfortunately, much of the motivation behind all of these programs and decisions is money.

When local government and law enforcement participate in these programs, they get $$$. When they seize assets (property, vehicles, etc.) of even suspected drug dealers / growers, they can auction it off for $$$. Of course, the seized drugs can be sold for $$$.

I should also mention the growing pressure on local law enforcement to send more individuals to prison to support the growing demand for prison labor, one of the fastest-growing industries. Now even airline ticketing reservationists are helping you from your prison cell. Why worry about jobs being sent offshore when we are already outsourcing here in the US? The prison industry lobby (corporations) have huge booths at the GTC conferences, showing the latest wares and skill sets of their low-cost labor force, and are in bed with state and local government to keep them supplied with an ever-increasing pool of "workers." More and more people are being sent to prison for minor drug offenses such as first-time possession.

Need a California inmate? http://www.pia.ca.gov/

Need a Federal inmate to build stuff for you?
http://www.unicor.gov/

Now we are even giving migrant farmers a run for their money by farmers using prison labor to harvest crops!

http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0822/p14s02-wmgn.html

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#22
It's like some weird cop novel...selling the drugs?? How do they get away with that?

Carrie

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#23
Carrie, according to an article in the Hilo paper a month or so ago, about 10 to 15% of the Civil Defense sirens on the Big Island failed to sound in a routine test. One of them was in HPP, and several others were in tsunami zones. I don't have the reference, so those percentages could be a little off.

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#24
Great "Cool Hand Luke", what can possibly be next.

So the farmers pay the prisoners $2.00 an hour, and the farmers pay the prisons $10 an hour for the privilege of renting rent THEIR workforce. Hey works for the elite class of investors doesn't it.
Hey everybody wins!

Next up child labor here, well why not it already goes on in a many countries I won't mention.

Soon we will all be working for 20 cents a day, like the good old days here, before the dreaded labor unions (sorry they went corrupt also), at these current trends, I mean when we are all prisoners. But wait then who will pay all the bills?

Didn't we run away from the debtors prisons of England, set up our own declaration of independence to protect the masses from the then KING, way back eons ago, well here we go again? Now we are becoming the same? (Seems debt is the work of the devil or some such thing).

I know nothing and keep head in sand and be happy, play music and weed my garden.

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#25
Should be a new topic, but yes, Carrie, it was reported in the paper a few weeks ago that tests of the civil defense sirens found that (I think it was) 4 or 5 of them were non-functional.

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#26
With all of the research that shows how non-invasive marijuana is, I just don't understand why it isn't legal (and heavily taxed the way cigarettes are). I know a lot of people would argue that it is too hard to regulate, but people are lazy. Why would you bother to grow it if you knew you could just run down to your local 7-11 and buy some?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a smoker, nor do I hold the belief that pot holds no dangers at all. But if alcohol which can kill you if you drink too much is legal, why not marijuana - which has medicinal, religious, relaxation and ritual qualities. Why not legalize it the same way alcohol is legal? Still illegal to drive under the influence, still illegal to do it in public outside of a designated area, but legal in your own home on your own time......

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#27
Lotus...all valid questions. And I don't indulge either...I think it's a big money thing as per usual.

Carrie

"All I can say about life is, Oh God, enjoy it." Bob Newhart

Carrie

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#28
I tell you it's because those greenhavest workers and others involved are making too much money. I don't think they are selling what they take as some here believe but imagine how much they must get paid to fly in those helicopters. I'm sure they get hazard pay in addition to what they normally make.

What would it take to get them to stop? I think if one crashed into someone's house which is a real possiblity, they would stop.

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#29
Oh and lets not forget the big Alcohol Lobby. Michael Moore's next docudrama real life expose could be about Lobbyists, or how corporate America ate the middle class, and dominated the Global economy for the 21st Century. Sleep deprived silly me.

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#30
Mella, You've got it right! The Drug War is a scam. When you follow the money, it goes right to the top, as usual. It'll continue till the somnambulant public wakes up and stops it.
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