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Mexican 'Drug Cartels' in Hilo and Kona?
#21
No it's not really addictive, certainly not like Ice,Heroin or crack cocaine, but those are a fraction of the bulk to ship, some was sold and some unfortunately was used causing major damage and addiction here. New territory now they're hooked.

Green harvest killed the pot growing business, so now the cartels are moving in here with their poison. Sadly the anti drug advertising has concentrated on pot, so today when someone offers the hard stuff, they know that they lied about pot, because so many people they know do it without problem, so this white stuff must be ok too. I'm not advocating pot, and I'm sure it doesn't do you a lot of good, but a lot of things don't. "Speed Kills", and heroin and coke aren't much better.

And anyone who thinks Obama's going to legalize or even lighten up on it (except for Medical with license)think again. Green harvest is already cranking up on the mainland, and the promise was to not enforce a law that is legal in the state (medical mari) only!



Gordon J Tilley
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#22
Gtil has a good point, if you could grow your own "plants" and as long as you used it responsibly then there would be way less market for allot of that stuff from Mexico. I know one Puna property Owner who had "plants" growing on his back acres (unknown to him) and the agents arrived and seized part of his land (big brother is watching).

The obvious solution is to call a cease fire to the War on Drugs. If the profit dries up the nasty drug cartels will have nothing to operate with. The only way that our Central Government will listen is when communities ban together like Puna and try to put some sense back into drug enforement laws and say hell know we don't want your black helicopters spying on us.

The whole so called War on Drugs is bogus. This mess is just like the Mob during achohol prohibition. In the end it wasn't worth "saving" everyone from alchohol just to set up a really nasty/criminal black market. As usual our leaders never learn from history. The same thing is happening w/ cigarettes, once they become five bucs a pac then the black market and criminals arrive.

Instead of Nancy Reagan's "Just say no to drugs" how about saying a great big no the the War on Drugs. Focus on the really dangerous stuff and leave the rest of us alone and deflate the profit that drives this nasty civil unrest !!!!!
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#23
Unfortunately that aint happening. For those hopefuls, today Obama specified no to decriminlization of marijuana. Coupled with Hillary's statement yesterday, "the drug problem is our fault", get used to the choppers.

Wait till he starts his youth brigades, they'll need somthing to do.
Gordon J Tilley
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#24
I'm not surprised. I worked on a coffee farm on the Kona side and they hire illegal Mexican laborers. In addition, many more come at harvest time and it's the same at other farms as well. This is their excuse for being here in great numbers, and, as usual, the "authorities" may tend to look the other way for "economic" reasons. As such, it stands to reason that drugs follow in the wake of these migrations. So here we have yet another example of how illegal immigration and drugs go hand-in-hand. What's next, an increase in violence?
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#25
One thing to do is liberalize the medipot laws to the fullest extent possible here on the state level.

Re. Mexican gangs, Most folks posting here understand that the prohibition laws are keeping this thing going and that it won't stop till the laws are repealed. It's either rule by violent, criminal gangs or repeal Prohibition. That's it and it's our choice.

No suprise that Hillary Clinton can't say the words, "drug prohibition laws".

I love the pictures of her and Gore taken by the State Dept. at the White House, posing with one of latin americas biggest drug lords (the gentleman was a large Clinton/Gore campaign contributor).

Obama is Wall Street and Wall Street is drug money, so nuff said there.

States should repeal prohibition using medipot laws as their platform.

The states will lead on this one.

From what I'm reading on mapinc.org, the whole country is talking about legalization and taxation of cannabis trade for adults. My guess is that soon enough, the cash starved/increasingly infested by organized crime, states will have no choice but to move ahead.
Lee Eisenstein
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#26
Keeping the stuff illegal is a bigger outrage than paying AIG executives millions of taxpayer dollars for doing their part in screwing up the world.
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#27
Funny coincidence I just got an email warning that a mexican gang initiation was to kill a woman in a Walmart 3 separate times, I really hope that is an urban legend or corporate greed by kmart. I do not think it was specific to HI.

Being as our local crop pickers do not want to work because of the stings from the fire ants, expect more than the usual flow of mexican farm workers and there gangster kids.
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#28
urban legend

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Pua`a
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#29
This afternoon, a flight of 6 Military choppers came into Hilo airport in formation, Green Harvest? Hillary is way up there now, and just agreed with the Mex Pres. that US was the cause of the problems for both drug buying and guns. Look for an all out war on both!
Gordon J Tilley
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#30
See my latest posting under "Legal Pot Coming"?
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