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Recycle WHY??. or why not?
#31
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Originally posted by Derrick Barnicoat

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Originally posted by nani1970

First off I recycle.
BUT, as I have posted numerous times before, I work for a major business in Hilo, that throws out tons of items that could be recycled, ie; bikes, items with lots of hard plastic,
And absolutely tons of plastic, in many forms.
While we are all running around recycling and putting forth our efforts, these companies are just throwing the stuff out, and then Guess What, more of the same stuff comes in on the next delivery, to be sold, returned and thrown in the dumpster.


UGH! Who throws out bikes! get me to that dumpster. There is barely ever a legitimate reason to throw out a bike.

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#32
Derrick, of course they smash the bike so NO One can use it .
Slash the tires and crush the chains.
My point being, these companies have a HUGE amount of waste.
It needs to be addressed.
I have written al of our representatives and gotten no response.
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#33
I Vancouver they used chopped up plastic as an additive to road asphalt. This deals with tons of the stuff, instead of pounds. The DOT should do a test strip of this when they pave the new Pahoa freeway.
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#34
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Originally posted by nani1970...
My point being, these companies have a HUGE amount of waste.
It needs to be addressed.
I have written all of our representatives and gotten no response.


Maybe they need to be embarrassed publicly into recycling.

And who are you writing to - I will join in.
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#35
Again, having lived in a county where ALL waste had to be exported....

Corporations get very much on board ONLY when the cost is high enough to hire trained personnel to deal with the waste stream (This I know first hand, having been a "surplus inventory coordinator" for one of those very large corporatins that had a research facility in our county...only one of their facilities that actually did drastically reduce their waste stream!)

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UK - most waste to power & other waste burning systems do have problems, esp with emissions when not target waste items end up in the waste stream... The best systems are very expensive.. and only come on line after most other waste reduction plans have not kept up with the waste stream & the community is more pro-active to provide a target waste product.... read the posters comments above to see why I doubt it will work here without a huge monitoring expense(big brother)


If you can figure out WHERE we will continue to place the waste...great...but having lived in a county where they had no more options, by increasing the waste stream today, you are speeding up the time when the cost of waste will increase ALOT...and those costs will be on everyone here...and it is amazing the Big Brother stuff that started with waste when the cost is high... so toss that can, pitch that bike... just do not complain in the very near future...the county has had many meetings, we all should know that the dumps are filling up faster than the planned rate...

If you are not a solution person, you are a problem person!
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#36
Thank you all for mostly informative and positive posts on recycling here in Puna. I find it hard anymore to WANT to do my part when I see so many large box stores or businesses failing to care we live on an island the same way. Maybe a different cause could lead me to recycling again?. Could any of these less fortunate public or charter schools have recycling bins open at times?. Recycling donations could go towards shirts or equipment for sports or wood shop for the KIDS. What could our county or state do to encourage large businesses like Walmart's, Target's, Sears, Ross, ect, to recycle and make recycling easier for our community?. The inconvenience of recycling, The county and state has us RURAL simple folks doing is ridicules Compared to the big business?. Large recycling bins should be behind every large business or better yet in front of them, with portions of donations going back into our kids at local schools.
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#37
It is my understanding (could be wrong) that recycling actually costs money, so giving it to someone else to do will just end up costing them money. I have even heard that it is "energy intensive" and doesn't even help, but I still do it- on the off chance that it does.
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#38
Julie, you gotta think bigger.

put a scrubber stack on the active vent, burn the trash there, and use it to generate electricity.

gets rid of VOG and garbage, produces power--we all win. Except maybe Pele...

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Originally posted by unknownjulie

I am not trying to start a war, but why exactly don't we burn the trash, put really good filters on the smokestacks and then somehow only have to figure out an ecological way to break down the filters into non-toxic substances? I mean, it should all be chemical reactions, and we should be able to figure this out.


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#39
Has anyone noticed the recycling bins downtown are gone? That's because the company that collected the Hi-5 containers wasn't making a profit and pulled their bins. The poor and homeless were beating Business Services Hawaiito the collection.

So now there's no place to deposit even Hi-5 stuff. The whole secret to recycling is to make it easy for people to accomplish.

How can we do this?

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#40
Pre-pay the disposal cost by taxing all "waste" at point of entry.
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