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Important questions about the PCDP
#31
Jay, I'm not entirely sure what you are reading and have lots of other things to do but I will try, quickly, to address.....

The PCDP should contain proposals regarding "down zoning". There are large tracts of agricultural land with parcels of fifties and hundreds of acres that are presently zoned AG1. AG1 is one acres zoning. One acre zoning is a residential subdivision in sheep's clothing. By calling for these AG1 to be down zoned to reflect 50% of the actual parcel size... example: a 100 acres parcel would be rezoned AG50.... the opportunity for future subdivision of hundreds or thousands of lots would be reduced.

Developers don't like this.

I think that is a simple explanation.

As for who "they" are in your question and what they intend to drop I am not sure.

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#32
Damon,
http://www.hcrc.info/community-planning/...ummary.pdf

You're right that Rob's link didn't work. This one should although I'm not sure where the error in the original link is. Pete's was just the html version and it messed the formating a bit.

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#33
Well I needed a newer version of Acrobat anyhow[B)].

Thanks for the corrected PDF link oink.

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#34
Sorry, I will attempt to be much more concise. I'm referring specifically to Amendment 17 - page 3-10 3.2.3b which seems to me to specifically striking down ALL down zoning provisions. It is the down zoning that I see as the most laudable core concept in the plan itself, and without it it seems there's not a lot left that would block any further development, rather a lot of special interest projects and a whole host of new hoops to jump through for anyone thinking that they're going to move to the island and carve out that little piece of paradise. Am I misreading this amendment?

As for the "they" I would take that to mean the sum group of phantom council people and other "interests" who are in the position to insert such amendments in the last moment, mostly without public discourse, and I suspect to the complete lack of knowledge of most plan supporters.
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#35
Jay, The Final Draft, with it's sudden acquisition of "amendments" and the subsequent rafts of amendments to amend those "amendments" and the following rafts of amendments to the amendments is really too hard for a volunteer community to keep up with. I suspect that that is the actual intent and purpose since that is what is going on.

On this basis I invite you to the rally tomorrow.

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#36
Thanks Rob, I appreciate the invitation to participate in the process. I will consider it. Still, admittedly, being the hard-case I am about such things, I find it very difficult to support a "Plan" which at this point is clearly full of all sorts of unknown clauses, and will induce all sorts of unknown effects on the community. I think at some very basic level it's irresponsible to "support" what you don't understand. At this point, I certainly don't understand. But seeing what I can of what is getting stuck in there, I'm getting a fair picture. . .and I don't care for it.

That being said, there must be immense frustration on your part at this point of the process, and others of good will involved, to see what looks to me more or less a hijacking. It would be difficult at this moment to even take a good look at the "Final Draft" in fear that one would find something wholly unrecognizable, but about to pass and become policy. I am empathetic about the situation. I would personally find the responsibility of my involvement pretty difficult at this moment.

So, at any rate, pass or no, good or ill--thanks to those of you involved in the process and the damn fine try you've made to attempt to create a better future here in Puna.
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#37
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#38
Rob; The more I try to get a handle on all the amendments the more I begin to feel like there are some "elected" officials who are so deserving of the long walk, short pier treatment I usually advocate for politicians who get bought and stay bought. Failing having the required pier, a short rope and long drop would also suffice. Its just beyond me how anyone can be expected to keep track of all the amendments these dip##### are advocating. Wish we were going to be there as I would certainly like to look my enemy in the eye, and explain in great and graphic detail why they would not need to look for my vote. Best of luck in trying to get the PCDP back to something approaching the original draft.[Sad!]

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#39
Dick, You may, of course, provide written testimony to the council members.

There is a possibility that the shear number of amendments could cause the amendment effort to topple over by gravity.


Remember, we do have allies on council.

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#40
Is written testimony allowed from non-registered voters. I wouldn't want to be responsible for getting anyone's testimony thrown out for violating procedural rules.

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