"The Protectors" and Their Momentum

[Eric1600]

Just to back this up a bit to the basics.

TMT -- fully permitted

Backhoe Guy -- nothing

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

Isn't it enough to say a guy came with a machine to the beach and that's a no no

Yes, but in overall importance on a Ka'u District To Do list, it might muster about number 10,000.

Perfect citizens: Those who do not like cake, but have a passion for producing eggs, butter, sugar & milk.

[kalakoa]

TMT -- fully permitted

Clearly, the backhoe guy should have applied for, and received, permits from State, so that State could retroactively rescind that permission after the Protectors nitpicked the procedural mistakes. Things have to be done "in the correct way", after all.

[MarkD]

Very likely would have needed permitting not only from state but from the Army Corps of Engineers. And preceded by an EIS. And community input. It is extraordinarily complex process. 2-3 years, perhaps.

(If you walk along Banyan Drive fronting the ocean, it is difficult to pass Uncle Billy's. One rock the size of a small suitcase, if placed down, would allow people to step up a 3-foot high rock wall that obstructs "lateral shoreline access." That would improve a difficult walk by 100%. But no one can place such a rock there without the full process. So the walk remains difficult after 50 years....)

This case is a good example a complete lack of local knowledge. (Seems the guy is from mainland, but I concede I do not know.) The folks behind this idea likely could have done all of work by hand in a low key manner over a period of days (not sure if they wanted to take out the pillars but even those probably could have been handled with a sledge.)

Would local people still have been mad? Yes, but probably far less.

But running heavy equipment down on the shoreline? These folks really lacked insight. I almost feel sorry from them. (If they are from the mainland they are probably from Mississippi or thereabouts where they are rather lax on using heavy equipment on shorelines....)

[kalakoa]

no one can place such a rock there without the full process

Merely a missed opportunity for the Protectors: "Rock Movers for Hire, no Permits Required."

[punaticbychoice]

kalakoa @ 10:18:
TMT--fully permitted (no dice).
The LOCAL ELITES here do not want a real economy.
They are leeches off of military spending, tourist spending
and retiree remittances.Period.
They use the resentments of ordinary local people to prevent a better life for us all. (e.g., TMT).
A real economy would threaten their corrupt, lazy dominance.

(As some say here, JMHO.)

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

missed opportunity for the Protectors: "Rock Movers for Hire

Paid in cash. Don't need no withholding taxes taken out for the illegal overthrow government.

Perfect citizens: Those who do not like cake, but have a passion for producing eggs, butter, sugar & milk.

[kalakoa]

A real economy would threaten their corrupt, lazy dominance.

I must have missed that part during orientation.

[punaticbychoice]

kalakoa @ 12:06:10-

Really?
LOL.
I never did the orientation session. Found out the hard way that everything has to benefit the local elites.
Including all their relatives and friends.

JMHO>

[kalakoa]

everything has to benefit the local elites

Yes -- it's pronounced "doing things in the correct way", which phrase usually appears in media reports about a new business, started by transplants, being shut down for failure to comply with some arcane/obscure requirement.