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Pahoa drone pilot tased in Volcanoes Natl Park
#51
Regardless of the events that lead up to the deployment of the tazer. I dont want to argue semantics if the drone guy was a loon,off his meds or if he was legally obligated to present identification. It boils down to the the moment the trigger is pulled. That moment of "Fight or flight" when the officer felt that he was an Immediate threat of life or limb to himself or others.

When you shoot someone in the back as they are attempting to retreat it sorta throws the justification out the window.

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#52
Kander,

He may also have just as easily 'bulldozed' several innocent people in his zeal to evade the Ranger.

Could've been a grandmother whom this clown knocked over and broke her hip for example.

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#53
in that situation, at the jaggar museum, visiting the overlook at that time, running is just the beginning. you must then get to your car, drive it through the parking lot with hundreds of cars, through the cones, past many people walking, and all the support staff that was directing traffic. it could've gotten a lot worse. there are many hazards associated with being out of control in that area - it's wasn't only the people in that immediate area at that specific time that were potentially in danger.
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#54
No one was in danger!

Except for the guy who got tazed. Throwing a lot of what if situations doesn't create danger out of thin air.

Kander has it right in that he was tazed while retreating.

I guess we can agree to disagree, but I sure hope that he majority in our society (not the vocal few on punaweb) feel differently than the park ranger who used his tazer because I sure don't want my kids growing up in a world where violence solves problems let alone full of those so quick to violence.

I think there were other available options to the ranger besides using his tazer and I lament that he put himself in such a situation because I believe it tarnishes the NPS as a whole and I wouldn't want my children to see NPS Rangers in such a violent light.

I grew up looking up to park rangers as role model's and I don't see this kind of behavior as justifiable or acceptable.
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#55
"No one was in danger!"

How do you know that Jim ?

Its a new age Jim, and I venture unlike the one you grew up in.
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#56
Well relatively speaking Pog, they were all of course standing on top of an active volcano.
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#57
slowly but surely the park police have become some of the worst actors on the federal leo stage. challenging blm officers for biggest douchebag award.
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#58
Nice deflection ...

How to take people seriously when they calling our officers "douchebags" on the internet here.
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#59
How to take people seriously when they calling our officers "douchebags"

Yeah. That kind of disrespect will get a visit from the County Inspectors.
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#60
about 20 years ago, a park ranger at koloko-honokohau in kona told some crazy a-hole he would have to leash his dogs. The confrontation escalated, somehow the whacko got the ranger's firearm, and shot him to death. He had young children.

I wasn't at jagger when this happened, but one never really knows who or what can happen next, often before its too late. This drone guy sounds like a fool to me.
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