Green Harvest - D.E.A. style ?

[loffelkopffl]

"I have heard that it is not very difficult to obtain Medicinal Marijuana card. If this is true, are those with legal cards and who are growing the legal number of plants being hassled and raided the same as illegal growers? What are forum participants thoughts on the med. mj laws?"



i know a couple of people who have the medical mj licenses, and yes they are hasseled by the terrorists also, they know everyones address(obviously)and so they fly real low and check them out whenever in the area, i guess to make sure they aren't growing too many. one guy i know can't even stand up staight and is in constant pain due to an acident years ago, and yet himand his animals are constantly terrorized, what a great thing for our gov to do to it's own.

[Genxor]

Oink, As long as marijuana is illegal the busts will continue. Everyone was aware of this fact when the County initially voted to not pursue the grant that supported "Green Harvest". That is why I titled my post -"D.E.A. style"
It is unfortunate that many divert attention away from the fact that marijuana is illegal. If you feel differently contact your representatives.
Until the time marijuana is legal, we need to find a type of enforcement we can all accept.
The Hawaii County Police and D.E.A. simply performing the duties they are sworn to uphold, do not insult these guys and gals by calling them terrorists.

[malolo]

Not to divert attention from anything certainly, but rather to add.

Green harvest, yellow harvest, whatever... some among you, those who value their constitutional rights in particular, may want to pass this link on to any potentially-violated teachers in your circle of acquaintances:

http://www.aclu.org/drugpolicy/testing/3...70917.html

Suspicionless overflights, suspicionless drug-testing, it's all the same. Terrifying, unnecessary, and a sad waste of resources.

[oink]

Genxor,
You will not hear me call them any such names. The local boys are just doing their jobs. Some may be lured to volunteer for that duty for the excitement. I'm sure it is exciting. I would find it so, but I am a little bit adrenalin junkie. I don't always share such a high opinion of the Feds. But yes, the operations will eventually decrease substantially, but it may take a few years to get to a normal level. It probably won't ever stop completely as I'm sure they will use some other money budgeted for enforcement, but the annoyance should become reduced. I wouldn't want to see it get to the point where you are afraid to enter forest preserves for fear of stumbling upon guarded or boobytrapped pot patches. I do agree that the current priority should be ice.

Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.

[Genxor]

Oink, The last thought was not directed at you, the comparison was made by another poster.
Ice is being addressed , though the marijuana advocates claim it isn't. There was an Ice Summit held on the other side of the island, and a $443,000 grant was received and will be used to combat that.

[loffelkopffl]

if someone terrorizes you and your animals then they are "terrorists"

lots of things are illegal, so why not rapell down and check out suspected burglers' houses? why not hover over tax evaders' houses? this list can go on and on, however this is supposed to be a country with certain constitutional rights(except of course for the bush regime)i don't care if they go and check out the forests, it's peoples homes that i'm talking about. it achomplishes absoulutely nothing. i wonder how many of the defenders of this terroritic policy have had these guys do it to them? aloha

[Kelena]

I think this is what happens when the word "terrorist" becomes devalued as it has over the last 6 years.

That being said, it takes a certain personality to derive joy from harrassing rural citizens, even if the harrassment is legally sanctioned (which is a close call in some cases ---can you "buzz" a house with out so much as a reasonable suspicion they are growing contraband?).

The "war" on marijuana is an excellent example of wasted energies. I truly believe that at the very least this is a matter that should be left up the States, and not Federalized. And then, perhaps within those states certain counties can be "dry" and certain counties can be "wet" (or "barren" or "green".

Puna would be wet and green.

[Genxor]

Glen , If you have knowledge of County police officers or D.E.A. agents that "derive joy from harrassing " I am positive the County would be highly interested. By making that statement I presume you have spoken with these officers and they expressed their personal "joy" to you ?
If so , contact our Puna council lady at enaeole@co.hawaii.hi.us

[Kelena]

No, I said it takes a certain personality to derive joy from doing such a thing. It is, of course, impossible to read the mind of the officers who are performing these flyovers, much less draw a conclusion about their individual emotional state.

I think the local officers are just performing a well-paying job.

But it takes a certain personality -- a rogue-- to buzz someone's property for no reason.

I don't know how often that happens. I just know that these flyovers are a tremendous waste of money, resources, and most importantly, officers' time that could be better spent on tackling more important law enforcement issues in Puna.





Edited by - glen on 09/15/2007 16:17:48

[oink]

Glen,
When I talked to a couple of them the last time I was in Hilo, they wern't all that well paid. I don't remember the numbers, but they were definately not impressive.

Also, I believe the courts have been fairly consistent in ruling that it's legal, you should know. That said, I wouldn't want them buzzing my house very often and the county has expressed it's opinion.

Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.

Edited by - oink on 09/15/2007 11:14:08