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Fight for Non-GMO Foods and Proper GMO Labeling
#61
This is a 2-year study done on GMO maize in France - the results are pretty frightening - worth watching.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njd0RugGjAg&feature=youtube_gdata_player







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#62
How about we put remote healing aside for now and keep the discussion real. Not speaking to the GMO issue specifically, rather, how "scientific evidence" doesn't always produce the desired result. Best example I can think of is when the drug companies release new drugs to the market. Don't they have "scientific evidence" to support the safety of their drugs? Of course! Are they always right? Um, no. Indeed scientific evidence sometimes collides with the law of unintended consequences. If not there wouldn't be recalls and class-action lawsuits. Either that, or the drug companies aren't using real scientific methods in their studies. It's one or the other.

Do I believe GMO food is unsafe? No idea but I eat it because I don't have much choice. (Hey, who needs rats when you've got PaulW and me volunteering to be the test specimens?) But I don't dismiss the possibility that, just like those scientifically vetted drugs that get recalled, there might be unintended consequences down the line. That's not anti-science, it's pro-science; wanting more data and longer-term studies is what scientific method is all about. Some might argue that calling the evidence "conclusive" (pro or con) at this juncture is anti-science.

Ah breakfast is ready--a GMO papaya with yogurt!
Tim

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#63
I suspect that much "scientific evidence" is tailored to fit the "profit projection".

Consider this is the same system that let someone patent "rounded corners".
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#64
"PS How is Ron Paul's election campaign going? Is there going to be another sign wave?"
Well see, PaulW, you just proved my point. If you can't debate it, resort to personal attacks that have nothing to do with the topic. Good job!

Now how many times have you heard that it's not about RP, the man. It's about the idea: Liberty, something's that's disappearing since the election's rigged (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77W5OKStO5s&feature=youtu.be, http://youtu.be/HmaE2Aez_XY), but you wouldn't know anything about that.

Stay in your sandbox. No thoughts nor common sense needed there.

If you want to continue eating genetically modified nonfoods, feel free. The rest of us want to know what we're putting into our bodies.

"An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped" Dr. Ron Paul 2012
SECRET KNOWLEDGE - "NOT FOR US TO KNOW"? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91qs9v-upWI
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#65
Now even inquiring as to how your candidate is faring is a personal attack?

Science has done more for all of us than anything else in the history of mankind. It doesn't claim to be perfect,
but that's what sets it apart from religions. It gets ever closer to the truth, no matter how much the fearful want to stop it.

If you want to avoid GM foods, feel free. But don't force your irrational fears on us with bogus labeling to warn people of something that is perfectly safe.
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#66
If it's "perfectly safe", what's there to hide? Label it.

Who here actually believes PaulW is honestly inquiring about Ron Paul?

"An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped" Dr. Ron Paul 2012
SECRET KNOWLEDGE - "NOT FOR US TO KNOW"? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91qs9v-upWI
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#67
You could put it this way:
"If you think that plants grown on a Wednesday are perfectly safe, then why are you against labeling?"

Because labeling to warn about ingredients which have been shown to be safe is silly. It is unscientific. It is irrational.
It is also counter-productive. People will stop reading labels if any old foolishness can be put on them.
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#68
PaulW, do you work for or have family that works for Monsanto? Because I can't understand why you would go to such lengths to defend such an immoral company. Commenting on someone's candidate in a thread discussing GMOs is an obvious attempt to undermine another commenter, using methods that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Monsanto buys people, businesses, corporations, scientific research, judges, etc. anytime they think these entities threaten their work i.e., their bottom dollar. There is a huge possibility and even convincing evidence, that many of their strains cause problems, both biologically to humans as well as environmentally and to insect populations.

Until conclusive evidence is found to the contrary, these products should be labelled. You and all the other 'pro-gmo' people can ignore it. But people who are concerned have no option of ignoring it or not, because you never know where this crap is. Why should you gain the right to not have to see it at the expense of the millions of others who know and are fighting for the right to be able to see it? If it's grown in Uranium, should they label it? Your 'grown on a Wednesday' repetition is ridiculously inadequate for this argument.

Why would Monsanto do this?
http://worldtruth.tv/blamed-for-bee-coll...arch-firm/

And what about these studies:
Massive Tumors in Rats Fed Monsanto’s Genetically Engineered Corn
www.carighttoknow.org

They are outlawed in major countries across the planet for a REASON. Quit presuming that everyone else is just an alarmist idiot because they don't agree with your deductions. Your deductions are only halfway researched at best.

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#69
Every sand box has to have a bully, I guess. Eat sand much, PaulW? Please stick to the topic and stop with the personal BS.

"An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped" Dr. Ron Paul 2012
SECRET KNOWLEDGE - "NOT FOR US TO KNOW"? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91qs9v-upWI
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#70
Basically all food that you buy in any large grocery store on the Big Island is GM.

Why do we need to increase the price of that food by requiring it to be labeled ??

The food that needs to be labeled, is food that is claimed to be organic.
How do I know that food labeled organic,really is organic??

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