Helicopter post deleted--see FAA thread

[geochem]

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Originally posted by PaulW


I hardly ever see contrails in Hawaii, not sure why that is. On the mainland they're everywhere. Difference in air temperature or lack of high-flying aircraft, perhaps.

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This might help explain it: https://flightaware.com/live/

A little mind-blowing when you stop to think about it actually...

Might also help explain why FAA isn't much interested in Hawaii's helicopter "problem"...

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

I hardly ever see contrails in Hawaii, not sure why ... Difference in air temperature... perhaps.

Yes, most planes flying over the islands are lower than cruising altitude, which is about 35,000 feet. Contrails develop at higher altitudes. Flights from the mainland landing on Oahu or Maui begin their descent even before they're flying over Big Island air space.

[PaulW]

And yet someone here says "I have been noticing them more and more in Puna."
Maybe it's another joke.

[Lolo]

Those of us who actually live in Puna, feel the vibrations, hear the noise and smell the residual burnt fuel will testify to reality.
Get ready for another invasion since THREE cruise ships are in town this week.

[PaulW]

I think most of us here on Punaweb live in Puna.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

Those of us who actually live in Puna, feel the vibrations, hear the noise and smell the residual burnt...

Especially if you light one up, and crank the Bob Marley. Mon.

"No one is such a LIAR as the indignant man." Beyond Good & Evil, 1886 - Friedrich Nietzsche

[Chas]

I seem to remember something about someone who studied (I’m going to be careful here) those things in the sky left by airplanes.

They had a chance to have a “control” period after 911 since no planes were in the sky for a while (I forget how long it was).

I don’t remember the details, if he was a “kook” or legitimate scientist. (Guess this may depend on your viewpoint)

I don’t care enough about the subject to look it up but I thought I’d mention it for those of you that do.

[PaulW]

Whether someone is a kook or a legitimate scientist is not really an opinion.

I remember that, it had to do with lower temperatures due to lack of contrails, if I recall correctly.
Here it is:
https://news.psu.edu/story/361041/2015/0...mperatures

[Lolo]

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Originally posted by HereOnThePrimalEdge

Those of us who actually live in Puna, feel the vibrations, hear the noise and smell the residual burnt...

Especially if you light one up, and crank the Bob Marley. Mon.

"No one is such a LIAR as the indignant man." Beyond Good & Evil, 1886 - Friedrich Nietzsche

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I don't smoke anything and Bob Marley is really not my thing. I do actually live here in Puna not on boat thousands of miles away so I can accurately describe our hell. But of course all those nonresident pilots need to send money home to the Mainland.

[Lolo]

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Originally posted by SBH

In May the County cleared and repaved the old Puna Airstrip for emergency evacuations by helicopter. CD ended up using it for their operations center and it is now no longer being used.

http://www.punaweb.org/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=24902

A new helipad could be created there like Blue Hawaiian’s Waikoloa helipad. There’s power and water already available at the Pahoa Airstrip, they would just need a trailer and a parking area.

The helicopters could fly west from there directly over the Puna Forest Reserve towards Pu’u O’o or HVNP without going over homes and would be very close to any (hopefully not) possible future eruptions in the LERZ.

http://www.bigislandvideonews.com/2018/0...y-housing/

This would also bring those tourists into Pahoa to spend more money, the helicopter companies save money on fuel and can make flights more affordable with shorter flights.

Personally I’ve been directly under their path for many years with the Pu’u O’o eruption and it was getting really old. Since the Leilani eruption there’s not many flights over my home anymore and we’re really enjoying the peace and quiet.

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You have some good ideas here. Please apply for a job with the County, they could use some fresh ideas. Thanks