Community as an organization in your subdivision

[Laughing_girl]

In Honomu, we just had a community association. Any one could be a part of it - did not have to owners only. There is a board.

They did all sorts of stuff related to the community - water issues. community watch, merchants assoc as a committee, event committee.

Maybe I am prejudiced but Honomu seems to work the best of all that I have seen. There was less infighting than many of them, and less politics it seemed.

[StillHope]

Interesting,Laughing girl.
Any other community associations where a renter can have the same rights(in voting,etc.)as an owner?

[John S. Rabi]

Renters have no rights about any property issues, only the owners do.

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[missydog1]

Hope, I'm not saying that special use permits are unique to Seaview. I'm saying that I'd be hard pressed to think of another subdivision where one holder of an SUP plays such a huge role in the community. Any little B&B in ag zoning typically has a special use permit. Seaview has two big organizations, S.P.A.C.E. and Kalani (I always thought Kalani was in Kehena, but in any case it is a big player in the area.)

My subdivision is just an old sugar camp area. Kala'oa. The closest present day community is Papa'ikou. Papa'ikou came together last year in opposition of a big development, in the PPO, or Protect Papa'ikou Ohana. It was a grass roots group, entirely volunteer, no official standing. My specific area has no CC&R's, no HOA, no dues to pay. Rural South Hilo District Association represents all the little communities north of Hilo as far as Hakalau. Ninole is in North Hilo district. There is also a group coming together to address the HDP, Hamakua Development Plan, which spans three districts (partial): Rural South Hilo, North Hilo, and Hamakua.

Although Hamakua coast has a different history than Puna, it shares a lot of issues with Puna. It too is marginalized with respect to Hilo town. As for services, we don't even have a gas station between Hilo Bayfront and Laupahoehoe, nor a real grocery store, although there are numerous communities, and there are schools and churches. There are a couple small markets, Pinky's and the one in Pepe'ekeo on the highway, and Low's Store.

Honomu is like a real village. At least it has a bakery, a pizza place, and some shops. Papa'ikou has a post office, with short hours, a credit union, Pinky's, and the propane place/Alternate Source/Tom's Bakery.

[StillHope]

Thank you,Kathy.Looks like your are is as rural as they come.[]

[Laughing_girl]

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Originally posted by StillHope

Interesting,Laughing girl.
Any other community associations where a renter can have the same rights(in voting,etc.)as an owner?

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Honomu's Community Association is an association of the community, owners and renters. In their community association, all you have to do is pay your yearly dues to be a member. No one is mandated to pay dues, nor is any one excluded. A family can have ten members and ten votes. But remember this is a community association, NOT a homeowner's association. There is a vast difference although in some ways they operate similarly. But much of their community is on public roads, county water, and HELCO so their issues speak more often to event planning, crime, and business development, residential development, and community Christmas party![]

If you go back aways to the fight to save Hakalau as a public area, owners and non-owners participated in that campaign lead by Mike Staskow. They also lobbied to stop the planned development by Doc Buyer's up the hill from Honomu town on ag-zoned land that would have required a subdivision of the properties.

[StillHope]

Thank you,Laughing girl.

[John S. Rabi]

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Originally posted by Laughing_girl
But remember this is a community association, NOT a homeowner's association.

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Big difference, really BIG difference!

Aloha,
John S. Rabi, GM,PB,ABR,CRB,CM,FHS
808.327.3185
johnrabi@johnrabi.com
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[critterlover]

StillHope asked: Any other community associations where a renter can have the same rights(in voting,etc.)as an owner?

The rules for each 'community association' are spelled out in their Articles of Incorporation and By Laws. Hawaii Revised Statutes, 421-j, Planned Community Associations, governs said communities excepting where they defer to the local By Laws. If you are interested in finding communities with associations who recognize renters as 'members' of their association you may want to look on the internet for the different communities and read through their governing documents for definition of 'member'. Ours, for example, does not recognize anyone as a member whose name is not on the deed. Even in a family, for instance, where the property is listed in one spouse's name but not the other, the unlisted spouse only has park use membership but no 'voting' or other 'owner' membership privileges.

Hope this helps. It is sound advice to be active in your association's meetings, if in no other way, to attend and keep track of what is being done in the way of business. Where allowed, serving on various committees and eventually the Board provides you with an inside view of politics on the lowest level of government, next to governing one's own family. It can be most rewarding and most maddening simultaneously, but when all is said and done, it is nonetheless a form of community service. Volunteer spirit should always be encouraged.

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