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A GLORIOUS demonstration
#21
Frankie - I didn't get to tell you...Tony and I saw the gathering on the news (via internet, of course) and I was just amazed at that level of concern and the sheer numbers that showed for this very important statement. Kudos and Mahalo!

Carrie

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"Even the smallest person can change the course of the future..." Galadriel LOTR
Carrie Rojo

"Even the smallest person can change the course of the future..." Galadriel LOTR
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#22
Good discussion here. If I was able to attend the event I would have. The more people involved the better in my opinion, strength in numbers right?

@ Greg "I would support a regularly scheduled "embargo", maybe tied with a "critical mass" type demonstration where lots of people bust out their bicycles for a leisurely mass commute to Hilo, legally disrupting automobile traffic." Now that is what I am talking about! Take over Hilo town with bicycles, I would love to see Hilo look like the streets in Holland where bicycles out number motorists. They also have multi level "parking" garages in Amsterdam just filled with bikes.

What I am hearing from you CFb483 isn't revolutionary it is just as you stated, self defense. Obviously the world's major corporations could care less about our planet or any of the beings which inhabit it. I read the links you provided and I didn't find anything promoting the use of violence to raise the consciousness of the people "slumbering" through life not aware that they're perpetuating this economic and global destruction through their non responsive actions. As long as there is a "starbucks, drive through fast(death)food chains, cell phones, and facebook to distract us from what is really happening to our world, people will continue to be "mentally sleeping". They will only wake up when such conveniences are no longer available. I don't abhor technology, only that it is used in ways to manipulate the human race into thinking we are so advanced. Ecologically speaking we are primitive when compared to native Hawaiians, or native Americans.
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#23
Revolution? It's not necessarily a bad word when a person reads American history.
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#24
CFB483, you wrote:
"Paul W - I am suggesting direct action. Boycotts, embargoes, sabotage"

We live on the Big Island of Hawaii. Just exactly what do you want us to sabotage, and how?

I'll always be on the other side of the barricades from people who promote violence.
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#25
Mu.
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#26
The dictionary can:
"exertion of physical force so as to injure or abuse"
You know, like sabotage. Are you planning to blow something up?
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#27
Mu.
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#28
I'm quoting from the dictionary. If you don't like that definition then feel free to write your own dictionary.

Yes, blowing things up is violence.
No, pushing a person out of harm's way is not violence.

Destroying papaya trees is self defence? Please, stay 6000 miles away.
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#29
Mu.
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#30
Wordnet is not a dictionary, and even if it was, that entry lists violence against people as an example,
not a defining characteristic. Yes, tough thing that language of ours.

No matter what you think of GMO (has it ever killed anyone? Anyone?) I think most people would agree that taking the law into their own hands and willfully destroying someone else's property puts you (if you were to do such a thing) into a very small and pitiful minority.

Violence is not the answer.
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