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[Greg]

Rasman,

I would agree with you to a point. The biggest difference between pakalolo and other jungle foliage is that it's fertilized. That's what I believe gives off a distinctive heat signature.

[KeaauRich]

Bob: yes, voters passed the lowest law enforcement priority bill, but there has been no discernible difference. The copters still hover over us. And Bob, with all due respect (and I do think you're one of the brightest bulbs on this forum), your arsonist analogy is totally off base. A more relevant analogy would be police peering in windows and knocking on everyone's doors looking for a discreet massage therapist who provides sensual services to his/her clients. I don't want illegal activity in my neighborhood, but the disruptive aspect of the enforcement activity shouldn't be greater and longer lasting than the disruptive aspect of the illegal activity.

MDD: we did due diligence before moving. We were told green harvest would be curtailed by the lowest law enforcement priority bill. We were not naive enough to believe it, of course, and that doesn't mean we can't work to improve the situation. And unlike train tracks (which are fixed in place and provide a great benefit to a great number of people), 'copter flights could stop tomorrow because there's no physical infrastructure investment that can't be repurposed easily. And oh, by the way, I used to live next door to a train track, and it was much less disruptive to daily living. Our due diligence also showed us that many of the intersections of Rt. 130 are extremely dangerous and poorly planned. Does that mean I can't petition for improvements there either???

And Daniel, you're right - they are a serious invasion of privacy. I'm not a grower (personal use or commercial), I'm just someone who enjoys a bit of peace and quiet on my Sunday mornings and someone who likes to sunbathe in my supposedly private back yard without having police staring at my bits and pieces from overhead whenever they so desire (and for the record, my bits and pieces can be seen from 500' without the use of high power magnifing binoculars...)

[missydog1]

Rich, that reminds me of a conversation I had with the HELCO folks. They mentioned seeing a lot of things when they fly the lines to inspect them. They weren't talking about plants, but about nudity ... and maybe sex in the great outdoors.

[mdd7000]

Is Green Harvest a County or State initiative?

The DEA, etc. does not have to abide by the Peaceful Skies resolution, only the County of Hawaii. The state can ignore it if they desire.
The lowest law enforcement priority/adult personal use may be the County of Hawaii's law, but those other groups do not have to abide by it. Personally, I do believe the County police are abiding by the lowest law enforcement policy - because you can go to any beach or park and see people openly smoking weed with no worries about the police. Then, those people get in their car and DRIVE HOME.

Too bad our young children and tourists have to see this happening right in front of them, huh?

[Bob Orts]

quote:

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Originally posted by KeaauRich

I don't want illegal activity in my neighborhood, but the disruptive aspect of the enforcement activity shouldn't be greater and longer lasting than the disruptive aspect of the illegal activity.

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I agree to some extent. However, from law enforcement's perspective, they must do it. They are under a mandate from the people to do what your seeing. The only ones to blame are those who voted for the Lowest Law Enforcement Priority initiative. Had it not passed, the people could complain. But since it did pass, all the police are doing is following the law as the people demanded. You can't complain about what they are doing when the people told them they must do this and do it at a level much higher than they did in the past.

[dmbwest]

A little off topic ... Law or not ;

I doubt we will ever ( in our lifetimes ) see, police enforcement of the no smoking law @ the beaches here.

Pohoiki for example .... The folks who smoke would still do so right 'till the very moment police angle towards them or probably if / when there is a death penalty. Even then I honestly believe it would happen freely / no worries.

This is the one of the many reasons I love it here.

I wonder, once the HeleCOPters fly over every square foot of the island. What will be the timing basis for the second round ? Anyone have a grow cycle time table for the plants they are targeting ?

aloha,
pog

[DanielP]

Bob, What a crock!

[DaVinci]

Legalize cannabis and all this goes away tomorrow. (Except of course, people smoking and then DRIVING HOME ... <emphasis courtesy of mdd>... however, I suppose that is only as horrible as all those folks out there who have a quick drink after work and then DRIVE HOME.) And Bob, I think you missed the point KeaauRich was trying to make: if the police cause more of a ruckus enforcing a law than the "criminal" caused by violating the law, how is society on our little island served? I believe KeaauRich was suggesting that, in fact, it is not served at all. Smoking pot just doesn't hurt anybody but the person smoking... why is it still illegal? I don't smoke, but I am offended at the enormous effort and resources spent by government at all levels to enforce these silly laws of a bygone era; the supposed danger of the deleterious activity at issue having been discredited by science overwhelmingly and often. When will the charade end?

[TomK]

Incidentally, just to go back to the start of this thread and "spectral analyzers" - a spectrum analyzer samples sound waves, not light waves. It's a small step to shout "spectral analyzer" when the science is not understood but the words sound cool.

So, unless your cannabis plants sing or make a lot of noise, the spectral analyzer isn't going to be a lot of help.

Tom

[Wao nahele wahine]

According to the first link below, hyperspectral imaging uses light, not sound.


According to the second link below, it looks to me as if this technology is being used to locate certain vegetation. Perhaps it's possible it could also be used to locate marijuana.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperspectral_imaging

http://www.optoiq.com/index/machine-visi...aging.html