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Camping on your own lot?
#1
Does anyone know what kind of limitations are there for camping on a lot you own? No CC&Rs on this one.

I'd like to stay on my lot for up to a couple months at a time. Mostly doing serious landscaping, and vacationing (of course).
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#2
Well in Puna it is not a yes or no answer. It can depend on where your lot is. There are likely legal limits on camping in some code somewhere. For it to be enforced would likely require a neighbor to file a complaint. That would take a month or so. The the CoH would send someone out to inspect. That would take a month or two. Then if the inspector found a violation they would send you a notice of violation by mail. That would take another month or two or three.

That kind of stuff can go on for years... if a neighbor complains.

The single biggest thing a neighbor would be inspired to complain about would be lack of sanitation. So renting a lua might be practical for more than one reason.

You don't say how many acres you have, where it is or if it has neighbors. If it has neighbors the single easiest thing is to talk with them, introduce yourself, and sound them out if they might object to your presence on your own land.

I would approach it that way if all you are talking about in being on your property during vacation making landscaping improvements for a month or two.

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#3
Bring rain gear! Smile

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#4
Yup! Get about 10 5 gallon buckets a few blue tarps and your set!!! Big Grin

Really, tho, if you do plan on camping ... just be aware when you leave, if you don't have squatters to chase off next year but you'll have fun trimming back all the bushes again. If your not going to live here my advice ... don't touch it! Don't even look at it! hahaha really tho, a lot of people will go in and clear thinking they will be back next year 5-10 years pass by and now the only thing you go growing is huge junk trees that are threatening power line and neighbors lots.

So think twice before you start clearing the native forest for evasive species to take over. This ain't the mainland ...
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#5
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Originally posted by ericlp

Yup! Get about 10 5 gallon buckets a few blue tarps and your set!!! Big Grin

Really, tho, if you do plan on camping ... just be aware when you leave, if you don't have squatters to chase off next year but you'll have fun trimming back all the bushes again. If your not going to live here my advice ... don't touch it! Don't even look at it! hahaha really tho, a lot of people will go in and clear thinking they will be back next year 5-10 years pass by and now the only thing you go growing is huge junk trees that are threatening power line and neighbors lots.

So think twice before you start clearing the native forest for evasive species to take over. This ain't the mainland ...

So true. Too bad people don't listen. There are so many lots of those "cleared" lots which are now full of bad trees and other invasive species, it should be illegal.
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#6
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Originally posted by ericlp

Yup! Get about 10 5 gallon buckets a few blue tarps and your set!!! Big Grin

Don't even look at it! hahaha really tho, a lot of people will go in and clear thinking they will be back next year 5-10 years pass by and now the only thing you go growing is huge junk trees that are threatening power line and neighbors lots.


I agree with don't clear your land until you are ready to build. How do I know, well we had our permit and cleared a housing pad when circumstances intervened and we couldn't make the move. When I visited 8 months later, well I almost cried at the growth!

When the building pad was cleared it was solid black lava looked much like a ice skating rink. Within 8 months it was so overgrown didn't even look like the same place.

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#7
I had the back 1/3 of my lot cleared because there had been a fire there that killed all the trees and besides I couldn't get off the road onto the property. Once I had the D-9 there for the driveway it made sense to have everything done. Other un-ripped properties nearby where the fire burned have lots of weeds so I may not have made things much worse. It is true that the disturbed areas come back all weeds while the undisturbed areas are mostly Ohia and Uluhe ferns with individual weed trees and Yellow Himalayan Raspberry bushes here and there.

On the other hand I have been told repeatedly that if the cleared area is diligently mowed that builds a layer of soil and turf on top, so if that is what you are after just keep up with the mowing.
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#8
I guess I have to fess up to the fact that my lot isn't Puna, it's Ka'u (Green Sands near Naalehu). I'd be asking at Ka'u forum, but hey, they don't talk. I like you guys. [8D]

It's covered in nothing but Christmas Berry bushes. Just gonna flatten it, spread some cinder, and plant lots of fruit trees and install a little drip irrigation for each tree, with a little fence around each one. Clumping bamboo all along the lot border.

Was just wondering if there was a law against me camping there while I did all this? Also a week or two once a year for a visit. Sounds like if my neighbors are ok with it, I should be fine.

I already got to know one neighbor, he's cool, and been told the other neighbors (whom I have not met yet), are "the nicest people you will ever meet." Oh yeah, and a guy who owns a dozer lives around the corner. Score!
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#9
Wherever your lot is, the things you plant will get buried by weeds if you're not there. I do live on my property and it takes about four weeks of neglect to make the place look wild. Baby fruit trees need to be watched over. I mean, do what you like, but don't do it unless you're prepared to waste your labor and money.
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#10
What Kathy said... Stuff grows like crazy here, and the wild stuff you don't want grows twice as fast as the planted stuff you do want. When you come for your weekly visits, you'll spend all your time weed whacking and on departure day, stuff will have grown back by the time you get to your airport departure gate (Ok, so maybe that's a slight exaggeration...) And BTW, little fences probably won't keep out the big wild pigs.

If it were me, I'd hand clear spots and plant the clumping bamboo to get them established for privacy, but leave the rest alone until you are here full time. Once you're here, hit one of Plant It Hawaii's general sales and load up on the fruit trees then.
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