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I'm a gun owner. And I believe in the constitutional law that allows any law abiding citizen the right to own guns.
The main problem I see is that gun owners don't secure their guns well enough. Leading to stolen guns in the hands of criminals.
If you own guns you should also own a heavy duty, thick steel safe and keep it locked up and bolted down.
One Thing I can always be sure of is that things will never go as expected.
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Use those little CB Longs for that. They work well on small pests and won't offend the neighbors.
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Pua`a
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When the priests returned Capt. Cook's handgun after he was killed, the barrels were flattened. The Hawaiians of the 18th and 19th centuries did, however, do all they could to get rifles (muskets at the time). Kamehameha employed Isaac Davis and John Young (reluctantly on their part at first) to be his cannon gunners. Mare Amara was also employed as a cannoner. There was a lot of blood spilled. I think after Kamehameha united the Islands, he was looking for peace. Guns are for killing. Handguns are for killing people. The "sport" of shooting is practice to make killing more efficient. The "right to bear arms" was drafted during a far different time in American, not Hawaiian history. Someday, maybe, humanity will grow up or evolve or totally destroy itself.
Lack - I stand by everything I said previously. Owning guns for anything other than hunting food is nothing but macho bull****.
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Originally posted by The Lack
...after twenty two months and many letters and complaints I got my 22 long gun back today. Owning that gun for fifty years and the great state of Hawaii said that I could continue to own it and keep it in my home.
Oh man do I feel privledged, it like I now have permission to bare arms. On top of that we now have a rat problem that I will bring to a screeming hault in the next few days.
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Congrats Lack!!!!! Most people who do not like guns do not understand that the musket and rifle were designed to kill for food and in terms of the military as an offensive weapon. Whereas the pistol, flintlocks included, are designed and continues to be for self defense purposes. This includes for military purposes. Even our local Hawaii police are allowed to only draw their weapons when their lives or the lives of other are in eminent danger. It is only in the hands of criminals that handguns are used for something they were never designed to be used for. Keep the guns out of the hands of criminals and there won't be a problem.
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You guys are missing the real reason men like to play with guns - phallic symbolism - these gun posts reek of phallic and male hyper ego overtones imho
ok does that make up for the baggage comment ladies? - grin
Dave - sorry, but I've always found that to be lame argument. The same could be said about heroin. As long as handguns are available with such ease, they will find their way onto the black market. Have any of you actually seen a gunfight or its aftermath? I would ask you to try that argument on the families of victims or the parents of children killed by accidental firings. I'm proud of Hawaii's gun laws.
It seems to me that to too many it's the right to bear arms that make this country great not the fact that we are 25th in the world in education or 37th in the world in healthcare. Have at me, but I fail to see what is so worth protecting and dying for.
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Originally posted by Mauka
Dave - sorry, but I've always found that to be lame argument. The same could be said about heroin. As long as handguns are available with such ease, they will find their way onto the black market. Have any of you actually seen a gunfight or its aftermath? I would ask you to try that argument on the families of victims or the parents of children killed by accidental firings. I'm proud of Hawaii's gun laws.
It seems to me that to too many it's the right to bear arms that make this country great not the fact that we are 25th in the world in education or 37th in the world in healthcare. Have at me, but I fail to see what is so worth protecting and dying for.
I am pleased that so many are willing to defend your right to leave the country, if you are so displeased with it.
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I'm one of the folks who has defended our rights. I
also am proud of hawaii's strict gun laws.
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Your comment goes both ways MD;
You are certainly free to leave a place whose laws you find too restrictive; You are also free to initiate change if you can. Great Island, Great State, Great country. [
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MDD - you have no idea of my background or what I've been compelled to do over the years in "defense of our country." I freely admit that I am not a patriot since my eyes were opened during the Vietnam "conflict." I do, however, by your own logic have a right as well as a duty to state my piece as well as my feelings about this country. The "don't let the door hit you on the way out" kind of statement is way old and tiresome.
It sometimes amazes me the people who come to Hawaii from the mainland and either forget or choose to ignore the real history here.
