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[kimo wires]

well, maybe not if you live in a yurt.

They fly directly over me too and I have to admit it bothered me the most when I was living outside on my lot.

But now that my house is built it's much better.

[YurtGirl]

I don't currently live in a yurt, Kimo, but a small, stick built, insulated cabin that was on the property when we bought it, but that's pretty well beside the point isn't it? Even when we do reach our goal of building our residential yurt, I'll join the many people who have largely outdoor, well ventilated island homes. And I hope to continue to spend a great deal of time outdoors, not shuttered inside a tomb-like house, hoping to avoid the maddening noise of constant flyovers from loud helicopters.

I'm asking if the original poster is still on this forum and if anyone else in Fern Forest or neighboring subdivisions is interested in attending a meeting with the tour places, the FAA and the public to discuss options.

[missydog1]

I wouldn't expect Darl to see the topic. Maybe email him or call. If Punaweb had a notification feature, then he would get an email telling him the thread had been bumped, but it doesn't have that feature, so for all he knows it's a long dead subject.

I only get the tours on certain days. I think it may be wind-related. It's just maddening when that happens. I certainly feel for those who deal with it every day.

I have a hard time with the "it doesn't bother me any more, so get used to it" mindset. Unlike the coqui frog invasion, it's under human control, and could be altered. If you don't mind it, mo bettah for you, but maybe try not to put the responsibility on your neighbors to adapt to it. It's well recognized that aircraft noise is a nuisance, one that is not controlled here, but has been protested against in other places, and sometimes there are solutions. Other than walking around wearing noise canceling headphones all the time.

[YurtGirl]

Check this out! From the link: http://www.freewebs.com/caoahawaii/lawsandfindings.htm

[C.] HRS 158-measure Title:”urging the Department of Transportation to immediately convene an aircraft noise abatement advisory committee to work with the Federal Aviation Administration to establish effective noise abatement procedures and to adopt rules and regulations in order to mitigate aircraft impacts on noise sensitive areas.”-Passed on 4/13/2007

[ D.] HRS 159-measure”requesting the Federal Avaition Administration to work with the Department of Transportation to establish noise sensitive operating procedures and air traffic patterns to reduce and control aircraft noise impacts.’Passed on 4/13/2007

Note: The State of Hawaii is obviously aware there is a problem with noise from aircraft overflights,hence these two approved Hawaii Revised Statutes.Even the State has reflected the frustration with this issue and the FAA , by asking for the FAA to work with the State Dept.of Transportation.

[E.] HRS,Chapter 42,Noise Pollution- Noise pollution is defined as “excessive noise”.

So that indicates that something already HAS been done, now where's the enforcement?!

[kimo wires]

Well if you can't "Get used to it" then...SOL

It aint going away no matter how much anyone complains.

Doesn't do any good to stress out about it either.

Maybe you could stick your fingers in your ears and go...

La la la la la la la la la la la...

[YurtGirl]

We'll see, Kimo. I don't share that mentality and I'm thankful that many others don't either. No offense, but sticking our heads in the sand hasn't done much good historically. And putting good effort into good causes has effected change and positive outcomes. People who put in a lot of effort to effect change not only have to deal with the problems at hand, but also the frustration when many of their fine fellow humans try to divert them, saying, "no sense in fighting it. just pretend it isn't happening. don't rock the boat." I'm just not that much of a pacifist and don't have that much faith in big government.

If you can stick your fingers in your ears or acclimate to the loud issue, then I'm guessing you'll be able to acclimate to my protests and those of others as well. How can you put energy into fighting people trying to lessen the effect of the noise on people and animals, and yet at the same time infer that we're silly to put energy into fighting the problem at hand?

[Pilgrim]

I agree with you, Yurtgirl. I think it was the 23rd that it seemed there was a constant parade of very loud helicopters flying along the southeastern Puna coast from 8AM to nearly 5PM. Probably about one every 15 minutes. Kind of killed the joy of a relaxing day of gardening for me. So how does this directly benefit our communities here in Puna?
I agree that this is a quality of life issue and I'm not getting used to it.

[kimo wires]

Oh well...

Good luck with that..

Yawn

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[mdd7000]

Actually, he (she?) wasn't being rude.
If you knew the history here about whining over helicopters, you would understand the comment better.

[mdd7000]

hawaiideborah: There is something called humor in that response you are so worked up about. Not every post has to be without it. I doubt that kimowires was trying to be rude either.

There have been dozens of threads about the helicopters. 25% are from people worried about their little plants, 25% about noise, 25% general paranoia about black helicopters, 25% could care less.

Relax.