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Just Curious. Have you all considered filing a class action lawsuit to the County to change Ag zoning to residential zoning for lots that are unsuitable for agricultural purposes? The reason I ask is if your lots were zoned residential you would be allowed, with proper permits, to have Ohana buildings on them. I have seen previous posts that seem as if some of you may want to have parents etc. live on your properties but zoning won't allow a second kitchen. I know my parents would want some privacy and a kitchen.
Any input would be welcome.
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if that was a concern i would buy in zoning that allows an ohana unit. why is a lawsuit the answer to everythng in america. some buy in ag land because they do not want the population density of residential zoning. research your choices before they are made and then the courts dont have to be involved.
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Maybe because ag land is taxed at a cheaper rate than normal residential?
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you missed a bunch of steps in the middle, what are you trying to do and were is your lot
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I think in these tough economic times we do need to adjust the regs on housing on AG land. For centuries, the whole family lived on one piece of land to farm and numerous houses or one great big house. That house or houses held grandparents, parents, kids, and their children - sometimes 5 generations in order to make farm viable.
Although ag land is not farmed as much as it was, it is still a viable option for one family to live on a piece of ag land and need quarters for grandparents, parents, kids, and their kids.
Honestly if we look at it - being able to have our parents nearby, independent but yet 200 ft away is a way better, cheaper, healthier solution than a retirement home. We had my grandmother with us until she died at 99. What an invaluable opportunity that was! Between her and my aunt they took care of my niece on the rare occasions that both parents were busy for a few hours!
And honestly, the PD is crazy is they somehow think 3-4 generations of people can all cook in the same kitchen with no blow-ups! [
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I have been talking to Fred Blas about this for a year or so and am meeting with him next week. A solution is needed and it should be a legislative solution. The current council may well be receptive to an overhaul of Puna zoning and consideration perhaps of even a new zoning classification. I see the current planning director as an obstacle that can be overcome.
A lawsuit is not the answer at this time. Working through our council office, community associations and with Friends of Puna's Future (
www.fopf.org) is the way to go.
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I like the ag designation .... animals kennels and some small farm biz all ok on ag not so ok in residential
roosters anyone?
now as to inlaw unit on the same farm lot ..... that should be a personal not a zoning choice
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I liked the AG designation until our new neighbor moved in with his roosters. Not one or two to keep his hens happy, but an acre of roosters lined out with A frames every 10 feet. Haven't had an uninterrupted night's sleep since, they go off at all hours and then they wake every dog in the neighborhood up too. It is one thing to intellectually know someone could move in with roosters and it is a whole other thing when it happens.
Some people really do farm in these subdivision, and not just roosters. Orchids and other flowers, nursery stock, poultry of all kinds, and mixed produce farms are all pretty common here in HPP, but they are a pretty small overall percentage of the occupied lots. People who want to do ag would need to be accommodated by any changes in the zoning, at least on the one acre lots, the 8,000-12,000 sq ft lots are a whole other matter, even in Hawaii it is pretty hard to "farm" on a lot that size, garden maybe, but not farm.
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Kat,
Doesn’t the County permit an Ohana as long as it’s attached to the main house?
We have the better of two worlds, eh?
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